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Suicide levels at highest ever recorded.


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Provisional figures in the report from the Central Statistics Office show a 24% increase in the number of suicides recorded in 2009 compared to 2008, with a total number of 527 suicides, the highest ever recorded. This dramatic change reflects the international trend which indicates that suicide numbers increase during periods of economic downturn. Between the years 2005 and 2008 suicide numbers fell by 11%, in line with the target set by Government.
HSE.ie - Health Service Executive Website - HSE National Office for Suicide Prevention publishes annual report for 2009

These figures are shocking, particularly when it probably underestimates the true levels of suicide. This is the pointy end of the recession.

Sadly, these figures were probably not helped by the cuts to mental health services. Cuts in this area are always seen as an easy target as there is not a proper understanding that mental health issues can be as serious as physical health ones.

I hope that FF realize that they bear direct responsibility for this increase. Some achievement.
 
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Well, this is what happens when you've a deep recession, high unemployment and Victorian debt management laws.

The social consequences of screwing-up an economy are that people actually die. The reality of this situation is that FF, Anglo, the Galway Tent Brigade etc actually have blood on their hands.

They seem to think this is all some kind of big joke / day at the races where people have lost a few quid. However, the social reality is that it is destroying lives and leaving people in terrible situations and deep despair.

Will the Government take any responsibility for this ?! Not likely!
 

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HSE.ie - Health Service Executive Website - HSE National Office for Suicide Prevention publishes annual report for 2009

These figures are shocking, particularly when it probably underestimates the true levels of suicide. This is the pointy end of the recession.

Sadly, these figures were probably not helped by the cuts to mental health services. Cuts in this area are always seen as an easy target as there is not a proper understanding that mental health issues can be as serious as physical health ones.

I hope that FF realize that they bear direct responsibility for this increase. Some achievement.
Looks like Bertie got what he wanted. Remember his suicide jibe?
:-(
 

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Looks like Bertie got what he wanted. Remember his suicide jibe?
:-(
A pity the bastard wouldn't follow his own advice. A least it would be a suicide of honour rather than despair.
 

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I'd say future generations will wonder why the present one wasn't out on the streets in civil unrest. Corrupt banks being protected by screwing the masses , the most vulnerable such as those in need of health services being sacrificed.
It's simply obscene.
 

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24% rise in a single year? That really is a shocking statistic.

A pity the bastard wouldn't follow his own advice. A least it would be a suicide of honour rather than despair.
Our politicians don't seem to have the same sense of personal shame as the Japanese.
 

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A pity the bastard wouldn't follow his own advice. A least it would be a suicide of honour rather than despair.
Advocating suicide in a particular case, renders hollow the concern you express in the OP. Cop on.
 

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Just imagine, somewhere in this economic wilderness at this very moment is some unfortunate soul, job gone, wife’s job gone, redundancy money long gone, huge mortgage 6months in arrears electricity cut off is actually contemplating the unthinkable.
 

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The social consequences of screwing-up an economy are that people actually die. The reality of this situation is that FF, Anglo, the Galway Tent Brigade etc actually have blood on their hands.
+1
The hangers on - the wannabe gombeens ( you know who you are ) also have blood on their hands.
"sure we didnt know it would be this bad" simple doesnt cut it.
like it or not , you were part of the system that is driving people to commit suicide. hope you can sleep at night.

also - anyone reading this who is thinking of topping themselves. please think twice. its only fking money - theres more to life than that shlt. talk to a friend or loved one. they need you and you have not let them down. its not the answer.
 

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If things get any worse ,and the government jackboots start to put the hammer on people already stretched to the limit to survived ,things could get very nasty for the jackboots and if I was the Bert I would be looking for a nice sunny location.
A pity the bastard wouldn't follow his own advice. A least it would be a suicide of honour rather than despair.
 

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This year I have been very depressed and have frequent suicidal ideation. I have had mild depression on and off before this year but never suicidal ideation except very fleetingly. It is not particularly related to the economy in my case, however. I had a digestive complaint and I was hoping once this was treated the depression would lift but it hasn't worked so I suppose I will have to ask the doctor for pills next time I see him as I can't go on like this.
 

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This year I have been very depressed and have frequent suicidal ideation. I have had mild depression on and off before this year but never suicidal ideation except very fleetingly. It is not particularly related to the economy in my case, however. I had a digestive complaint and I was hoping once this was treated the depression would lift but it hasn't worked so I suppose I will have to ask the doctor for pills next time I see him as I can't go on like this.
Don't wait cg. Go to your doctor now and ask him for antidepressants. If you can afford counselling consider finding a cognitive therapist. The combination of antidepressants and cognitive therapy is the best treatment for depression. And don't be afraid of the meds. They are not addictive like sedatives.
 

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This year I have been very depressed and have frequent suicidal ideation. I have had mild depression on and off before this year but never suicidal ideation except very fleetingly. It is not particularly related to the economy in my case, however. I had a digestive complaint and I was hoping once this was treated the depression would lift but it hasn't worked so I suppose I will have to ask the doctor for pills next time I see him as I can't go on like this.
I have been in the same boat and was in fact hospitalized for seven weeks for depression following a suicide attempt (again nothing to do with finances). I have come through the most difficult two years of my life. You can get through it, but I would defiantly recommend seeking and getting treatment and don't just rely on the drugs, which are important, but only as a stabilizing factor that helps you get other things right in your life. Whatever you do, don't ignore it and don't try to deal with it on your own. It may overwhelm you and no one wants that.

Best of luck and keep fighting.
 

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I have been in the same boat and was in fact hospitalized for seven weeks for depression following a suicide attempt (again nothing to do with finances). I have come through the most difficult two years of my life. You can get through it, but I would defiantly recommend seeking and getting treatment and don't just rely on the drugs, which are important, but only as a stabilizing factor that helps you get other things right in your life. Whatever you do, don't ignore it and don't try to deal with it on your own. It may overwhelm you and no one wants that.

Best of luck and keep fighting.
Yes of course, depression is a serious illness and as such should be treated by medical experts.
 

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Advocating suicide in a particular case, renders hollow the concern you express in the OP. Cop on.
Not in the least. There is nothing morally wrong with suicide, per se. It can be done for quite reasonable reasons. People can and do commit suicide for reasons of honour. Certainly Ahern, while under no obligation to do so, certainly would be reasonable in committing suicide for this reason. There would be nothing tragic about that and might even help to redeem his reputation.

However, suicide committed for reasons of despair or mental illness is tragic and society should do what ti can to do something about that. Currently the government is doing little or nothing to help and is doing much to make the situation worse. This is a scandal.
 

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Just to confirm that suicide is being under-reported, there was an interview with the head of Pieta House, a suicide prevention charity, on Newstalk this morning and she pointed out that there are four coroners in the state that refuse to record a verdict of suicide, so suicides in those areas do not make it into the statistics. Other coroners are reluctant to find a verdict of suicide if they can find the slightest excuse not to.

Our suicide crisis is a lot worse than the official figures suggest.
 

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