Sunday Times B&A Poll: FG31 FF24 SF24 Lab4 Ind9 IA3 Grn2 Sol 2 SD1



GabhaDubh

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Labour stable at 4, love it.
 

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"Satisfaction with the Government has jumped by 5%, according to a new opinion poll."
 

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If true, Labour has lost 40% of its support since the 2016 GE - though as the margin of error is 3% its hard to draw firm conclusions. Even so many polls have them in the 3-5% range so further losses possible-to-likely.

A second term for the New Politics is most likely outcome, as Leo and Martin are ruling out SF as coalition partners.
 

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Fine Gael still with a comfortable lead out in front.

Leo most popular leader with Mary Lou second most popular.

Satisfaction with the government up five percentage points to 46%
https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2018/0616/971029-sunday-times-poll/
Even though I'm of the "I'll believe it when I see it" disposition, this is very good news for us.....w'll have the usual yammers on saying the only poll that counts, blah, blah, and what is the point, but we are seeing, I hope, the shoots of a real rebirth in politics.....SF are getting closer to FF for a few polls now, and this is remember before the Ard Fheis and some very interesting policy initiatives such as the university fees.....
Methinks we are taking a leaf out of the SNP and Corbyn's Labour book and moves such as this could really enthuse the youth of this country, making the next election a real dilemma for especially FF minded people....stick with the same old with Mr Burns or see real change.......for the better...
 

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No surprise to the rumours of Varadkar planning to go to the country sometime in the autumn or t'other side of xmas.

It can be dangerous not to give the party its head off the back of approval ratings and a jump in the polls and the post-referendum honeymoon may not last too long as economic realities start to intrude once more along with items such as the homelessness crisis.

If Varadkar doesn't go to the country with a sniff of a possible majority without the 'support' from FF then he won't be thanked for it by backbench FG if they miss the bus.
 

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If true, Labour has lost 40% of its support since the 2016 GE - though as the margin of error is 3% its hard to draw firm conclusions. Even so many polls have them in the 3-5% range so further losses possible-to-likely.

A second term for the New Politics is most likely outcome, as Leo and Martin are ruling out SF as coalition partners.
Nah. FG-SF.
 

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Fine Gael and Sinn Féin to form the next government.
No reason to change Leo and Simon with Brexit on the horizon and SF clearly want to be in power in the south.

Michael Martin to be the first FF leader never to become Taoiseach.
 

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You need a reason to have the election though, whether manufactured or not. I don't think they'll be thanked by the electorate by a power grab.

But if SF/FG announce their preference for each other before the vote: That's bad news for everyone else and could add up to a really large majority for the new coalition.
 

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If Varadkar doesn't go to the country with a sniff of a possible majority without the 'support' from FF then he won't be thanked for it by backbench FG if they miss the bus.
This poll doesn't give him that.
 

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You need a reason to have the election though, whether manufactured or not. I don't think they'll be thanked by the electorate by a power grab.

But if SF/FG announce their preference for each other before the vote: That's bad news for everyone else and could add up to a really large majority for the new coalition.
There's absolutely zero chance of that happening. From either side.
 

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No surprise to the rumours of Varadkar planning to go to the country sometime in the autumn or t'other side of xmas.

It can be dangerous not to give the party its head off the back of approval ratings and a jump in the polls and the post-referendum honeymoon may not last too long as economic realities start to intrude once more along with items such as the homelessness crisis.

If Varadkar doesn't go to the country with a sniff of a possible majority without the 'support' from FF then he won't be thanked for it by backbench FG if they miss the bus.
Can't see an election until abortion legislation put through.
 

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It is better than eventually facing an election when the advantage has dissipated.
RedC and MRBI are consistently polling FG higher. Anyway there won't be an election till next year.
 

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Can't see an election until abortion legislation put through.
Agree. Timing for me would be past October. November perhaps? Close enough for FG to promote an economic package newly branded ahead of the budget with the usual tickle of an incumbent government for the belly of the public and civil service. One of the few advantages to FG of the supply arrangement with the cattlemart pickpockets is that they can also pick the moment to declare themselves unhappy with the support and claim they are forced to seek a sole governance mandate from the electorate.

A kick in the balls to FF along the way would be a support gatherer for Varadkar as well from his own party if his strategists get the timing right. They could leave FF in disarray for an election which would be mighty tempting to any FG leadership.
 

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If Michael Martin keeps ruling out Sinn Féin he is going to be asked how will you form a government if you won't consider a FG coalition.

Yes he can argue a reversal of what we have now but every poll consistently shows that cannot happen with FF always trailing FG by a comfortable margin.

Michael Martin is selling a party not willing for government.
 


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