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Sunday Times: New TD Katherine Zappone Making Questionable Expense Claims

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Newly elected TD Katherine Zappone stands to gain over €80,000 over the next five years based on questionable expense claims according to a front page story in today's Sunday Times.

All TDs are required to self-declare the "shortest practicable route" to and from Leinster House as there are different expenses payable depending on how far they have to travel.

According to the article, Zappone, who represents Dublin South West and lives near Brittas in Dublin, has submitted documentation to the Oireachtas claiming that her "normal place of residence" is more than 25 km from Leinster house.

This would entitle her to a €25,295 allowance per year to cover travel and accommodation expenses.

TDs who live within 25 km of Leinster House get a €9,000 allowance, known as the Dublin rate.

However, according to the Sunday Times, Zappone lives only 22 km from Leinster House. She stands to gain an extra €81,475 over a five year Dáil term compared to what she would get only on the Dublin rate.

During her time in the Seanad she was also paid expenses on the basis that she lived more than 25 km from Leinster House although no breakdown of expenses is given for this period in the article.

Zappone did not respond to queries about this issue when contacted last week although she previously told the Sunday Times when they questioned her Senate expenses that she took a longer route (28 km) that takes a shorter period of time to get to and from Leinster House.

The full story can be seen here by clicking to zoom: http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/st-4.jpg
 


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What, she is not a Shinner, well this thread won`t last long.
 

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The shortest route from A to B in Dublin is often not the quickest. She is still a spoon for clamming on the higher rate.
 

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Newly elected TD Katherine Zappone stands to gain over €80,000 over the next five years based on questionable expense claims according to a front page story in today's Sunday Times.

All TDs are required to self-declare the "shortest practicable route" to and from Leinster House as there are different expenses payable depending on how far they have to travel.

According to the article, Zappone, who represents Dublin South West and lives near Brittas in Dublin, has submitted documentation to the Oireachtas claiming that her "normal place of residence" is more than 25 km from Leinster house.

This would entitle her to a €25,295 allowance per year to cover travel and accommodation expenses.

TDs who live within 25 km of Leinster House get a €9,000 allowance, known as the Dublin rate.

However, according to the Sunday Times, Zappone lives only 22 km from Leinster House. She stands to gain an extra €81,475 over a five year Dáil term compared to what she would get only on the Dublin rate.

During her time in the Seanad she was also paid expenses on the basis that she lived more than 25 km from Leinster House although no breakdown of expenses is given for this period in the article.

Zappone did not respond to queries about this issue when contacted last week although she previously told the Sunday Times when they questioned her Senate expenses that she took a longer route (28 km) that takes a shorter period of time to get to and from Leinster House.

The full story can be seen here by clicking to zoom: http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/st-4.jpg

Surely the only measurement that counts is as the crow flies?

If not, then I live 3,000 Km from Cork.
 

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According to the article, Zappone, who represents Dublin South West and lives near Brittas in Dublin, has submitted documentation to the Oireachtas claiming that her "normal place of residence" is more than 25 km from Leinster house.

This would entitle her to a €25,295 allowance per year to cover travel and accommodation expenses.

TDs who live within 25 km of Leinster House get a €9,000 allowance, known as the Dublin rate.

However, according to the Sunday Times, Zappone lives only 22 km from Leinster House. She stands to gain an extra €81,475 over a five year Dáil term compared to what she would get only on the Dublin rate.

Zappone did not respond to queries about this issue when contacted last week although she previously told the Sunday Times when they questioned her Senate expenses that she took a longer route (28 km) that takes a shorter period of time to get to and from Leinster House.
Prior to the cancellation of the service, €16,295 would have covered the annual cost of the emergency alert system for 232 elderly people living alone. Could she not just set her alarm clock earlier instead of abusing our taxes?
 

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that young fella who plays Q in the daniel craig bond movies has been cast as Freddie Mercury

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q-QfK6p-PA

they should have got Daniel Day Lewis or Sacha Baron Cohen
Cohen turned it down after two years of involvement, because May, Taylor, and that other lad, wanted to make a Queen film with a vanilla Freddy Mercury in it, who dies half way through. They are the producers of the film.

Either that, or Cohen fiddled his travel expenses.
 

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17 seconds to make expenses secret

'Head them off at the pass!'
How the deed was done. It's the last day of the Dail's sitting. Fine Gael and Labour are governing- safe pairs of hands there-Fianna Fail are vigilant in the slips and silly mid off. The head honcho intones a series of numbers in the course of a 'Banking crisis Debate' [who's paying attention to that]; and four months later we find that TD's expenses are now one of Ireland's few state secrets.
https://twitter.com/kenfoxe

...and I thought they were indecisive in government.
 
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Why anyone thought this hideous creature was anything but another snout in the trough beats me.
 

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It is remarkable how the notion continues that TDs are entitled to make a profit of expenses when in fact expenses are supposed to defray the costs of representing the constituency.

Then again it is no surprise to me that the efforts of TDs in this era of austerity are centred around hiding their benefits from the public.

When TDs who live in Dublin- not the biggest of European cities it has to be said- are claiming mileage which would by itself be a respectable salary there is something seriously wrong with the allowance and the calculations behind it.
 

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I wonder what the result would be if someone were to calculate the number of days in the year where Ms Zappone had to attend the Dail (excluding the long periods in the year when the Dail does not sit) and worked out if she had a cab to and from on each day she was expected to attend.

I suspect it would come to a lot less than her mileage claims for the year. And the same for many another TD.
 

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25k a year because you live 25 clicks away?

A lot of people would find that pretty sickening if they stopped to think about it.
 

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The shortest route from A to B in Dublin is often not the quickest. She is still a spoon for clamming on the higher rate.
Try explaining that to a private company when they are in the process of sacking you for fiddling expenses and they'd laugh in your face.
 

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The Oireachtas must be one of the few employers left in the modern era where it is customary to allow employees enough room to make a serious profit from what are supposed to be 'expenses'.

If you were caught at the capers some TDs have been routinely at down the years while in the private sector your attendance at work altogether would no longer be required.

It is no wonder that we had clowns in FAS with the attitude they had to spending public money on themselves when they see the lily well gilded over their heads.

It is no surprise to me that the final act of the Oireachtas in respect of expenses systems is to try to withdraw said expenses altogether from public view. They've tried everything to justify them down the years and have now given up and just attempted to hide them.

And then the other side of the coin is that the public is expected to believe that you have to pay the equivalent of a high private sector package to TDs in case they all desert to the private sector. The problem with that is that they certainly wouldn't get away with the expenses massaging that they get away with currently if they were in the private sector.

They'd get called in after the first month and would consider themselves lucky to get away with a bollocking and an adjusted demand to bring their expenses down to what it cost them and not what they'd like to earn.
 

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