Sunday Times Poll: FG31 FF27 SF19 Ind 12 Lab4 GP2 SD1

[jmcc]

When did the first one happen?

When FF supported FG in government and didn't get any of the mercs and percs.

 

[edwin]

When FF supported FG in government and didn't get any of the mercs and percs.

You mistook that for a coalition??

 

[hollandia]

Apart from Sinn Fein? It would force a Left/Right axis in Irish politics.

Possibly, but would incur five years of the singlemost right wing government in the history of Ireland. From a tactical point of view, establishing yourself as the opposition isn't much of a tactic.

 

[edwin]

Possibly, but would incur five years of the singlemost right wing government in the history of Ireland. From a tactical point of view, establishing yourself as the opposition isn't much of a tactic.

Hyperbole much? You think a coalition between a centrist, populist party and a centre right party would create a really right wing government? Perhaps you shoudl pass your advice on opposition to SF - becoming the lead party of opposition has been their central (failed) strategy for about 6 years now.

 

[hollandia]

Hyperbole much? You think a coalition between a centrist, populist party and a centre right party would create a really right wing government? Perhaps you shoudl pass your advice on opposition to SF - becoming the lead party of opposition has been their central (failed) strategy for about 6 years now.

Here's their address.

Sinn Fein | Head Office 44 Parnell Sq D01XA36 Co. Dublin

I suggest you write to them ASAP.

 

[jmcc]

Possibly, but would incur five years of the singlemost right wing government in the history of Ireland. From a tactical point of view, establishing yourself as the opposition isn't much of a tactic.

I thought Sinn Fein was the opposition? At least that's the way it looks with RTE and the media. Nobody really mentions Fianna Fail much these days.

 

[edwin]

Here's their address.

Sinn Fein | Head Office 44 Parnell Sq D01XA36 Co. Dublin

I suggest you write to them ASAP.

You're the one with the advice - go and fire away

 

[hiding behind a poster]

Serious brown trousers time for Labour and Howlin. With Burton being blamed for that pensions screwup, could Labour even drop another few points by the next poll? At least if Labour had had an election for its leadership instead of a coronation, it might have had some recovery. At the moment, the polls are confirming that it is becoming a margin of error party. B&A were the pollsters that "detected" the Burton bounce so things might actually be worse for Labour in that it has lost its position as a national party and is now a gaggle of personalities depending on their personal vote.

Except that there's no way of proving that the "Burton bounce" wasn't there.

 

[hollandia]

You're the one with the advice - go and fire away

Nope. Sorry your confusing my observation with "advice". Heading away from level tonic to level Dengler.

 

[edwin]

Nope. Sorry your confusing my observation with "advice". Heading away from level tonic to level Dengler.

Hmmm, spending your time comparing me to other posters rather than dealing with the points I made. Good luck with that

 

[hollandia]

Hmmm, spending your time comparing me to other posters rather than dealing with the points I made. Good luck with that

Well, you introduced the ad hominem, so suck it up.

 

[statsman]

No more need to comment on this thread after this. You nailed it

There will, however, be a couple of hundred more posts.

 

[hiding behind a poster]

Sinn Fein holding steady, on these figures it will be another FG/FF coalition...

There's no FG/FF coalition, nor will there be one. Please check your facts.

 

[statsman]

The Sun came up upon the left,
Out of the sea came he!
And he shone bright, and on the right
Went down into the sea.

 

[Peppermint]

Again we discuss to death a meaningless media burp...
This means Nothing, it shows nothing!
"Polls" a few days out from an election have recently "REGULARLY" shown to be wrong!

Why the F...... should this one be any better?

Should we start a thread on a coin toss showing FF will win a hundred seats?
There are quite a few tossers in the party, so maybe they could sway the result??

 

[hiding behind a poster]

Why do you want a FG FF coalition?
I thought the hardline shinners like yourself would be horrified by this. Most shinners seem to want it....

Unfortunately the poor Joe Soap Shinners on here think that while they can see the obvious massive benefit to SF of any FG/FF coalition, none of the professional politicians and staffers in either of the two big parties can.

God love 'em.

 

[hollandia]

Poor SF are in big trouble.
The voter is starting to realise that a vote for poor SF is a wasted vote.
Never in govt in the 26, do they need a new leader?
Interesting times ahead for poor SF.

Sinn Fein will be mildly worried that they aren't making much in the way of progress, but they aren't in big trouble.

Labour, however...

 

[hiding behind a poster]

I can't envisage anyone in the entire country wanting a FG/FF coalition.

Except SF.

 

[hiding behind a poster]

Apart from Sinn Fein? It would force a Left/Right axis in Irish politics.

No it wouldn't. The Irish people are, and always have been, overwhelmingly centrist - and that's not gonna change anytime soon.

 

[hiding behind a poster]

When FF supported FG in government and didn't get any of the mercs and percs.

When was that?