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Supreme Court finds Government Booklet on Referendum Biased


Should the Children's Rights Referendum be postponed in light of today's Supreme Court ruling?

  • Yes

    Votes: 162 65.6%
  • No

    Votes: 85 34.4%

  • Total voters
    247
  • Poll closed .

myksav

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Heard Coveney, this morning, say they will put forward referenda no matter the turnout.
Apparently, FG/Lab are going to spam the electorate with referenda this term to distract the electorate from the krappy job the Gov't are doing.
 

Household_charged

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Heard Coveney, this morning, say they will put forward referenda no matter the turnout.
Apparently, FG/Lab are going to spam the electorate with referenda this term to distract the electorate from the krappy job the Gov't are doing.
God forbid you would try to be impartial?
 

SayItAintSo

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Spam us with referenda so when the big one comes, to hand over what's left of the country to Europe, most will be too jaded to care.
 

borntorum

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So the Supreme Court released its full judgment today. Nice to see the Chief Justice agreed with what I had been saying on here ;):



The Chief Justice held that language in the materials “on their face, failed the test of being fair, equal and impartial, failed to be neutral, and failed to hold the scales equally between both sides”.
For example, the use of the slogans “protecting children” and “supporting families” – both of which were offered in the literature as outcomes of a Yes vote was found to be in breach of this test.
This was because for some who opposed the referendum, the vote was not about protecting children, but that in fact a Yes vote could result in a greater State intervention with children which they opposed.
To be honest, it's pretty astonishing that this wasn't readily apparent to the President of the High Court.

Referendum website’s ‘Like’ button illustrated bias for Yes vote
 

Half Nelson

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Tin Foil Hat

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So the Supreme Court released its full judgment today. Nice to see the Chief Justice agreed with what I had been saying on here ;):



To be honest, it's pretty astonishing that this wasn't readily apparent to the President of the High Court.

Referendum website’s ‘Like’ button illustrated bias for Yes vote


Outrageous that the SC made a point of stating that the errors were made in good faith. They were in my hole. The government knew exactly what they were doing.
Outrageous also that there seems to be absolutely no consequences for this breach of our Constitution.

It's also a shame that the Referendum Commission haven't got pulled up. What's become their trademark slogan for their TV and radio ads - "These are important changes" - is not a statement of fact and is an obvious push in the Yes direction.
 

borntorum

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Only if you assume the courts are fair.
The courts are fair, generally speaking. And when they are not it's usually through honest fault rather than anything else.

The High Court decision was a shocker, though
 

RainyDay

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Richard Humphreys As well as a barrister, Labour councillor and Labour Party legal adviser, he's also among many other things a legal adviser to Brendan Howlin's Department on reform issues. He's a busy bee isn't he. I'm wondering if he hasn't cloned himself.
I see from this PQ response Dáil Éireann - 20/Dec/2012 Written Answers Nos. 128-135 that Humphreys is getting about €10k a month from Howlin's Dept for about 2 days work each week. Nice work if you can get it...
 
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is there any more ramifications to this or has the constitution now been amended?
 

Destiny's Soldier

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Still no ruling on the validity of the referendum?

I imagine the State and Legal profession are doing their usual legal gymnastics to construe a judgement that will exonerate Shatter of all responsibility and ensure the motion is passed.

The Judge will probably rule that the margin of victory was substantial enough to render bias in the literature irrelevant. And that re running the referendum would go against the wishes of the people -something around the template of the Divorce referendum challenge.

The Divorce Referendum passed only by a majority of around 7000 votes. Switch 3501 of those and the Referendum was lost.
 
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