Surprisingly balanced documentary on the Long March.

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Out of the ashes of the massacres of 1927 throughout China, but particularly in Shanghai where women in the working districts were strung up in public and had their breasts amputated before being left to bled to death by the forces of the crime gangs, colonial powers and the right the Red Army exhausted and on the verge of annihilation under the leadership of comrade Mao Zedong took upon itself an amazing feat of endurance that in the end to that glorious day, the 1 st October 1949 when the People's Republic of China was declared officially with the victory of People's Liberation Army over the Kuomintang, the Japanese Imperialist, the crime lords and all other enemies. It remains a glorious inspiration to working and oppressed people everywhere and a reminder that the great only appear so because we are on our knees....Let us arise!
 


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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeLuSGkXpdE&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - The Long March - Part 1 (1 of 6)[/ame]

Here is the documentary.
 

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It remains a glorious inspiration to working and oppressed people everywhere and a reminder that the great only appear so because we are on our knees....Let us arise!
Yes lets emulate the greatest mass murderer in history. It is quite shocking that are clowns out there who post this kind of drivel. Mao should have faced a war crimes and genocide tribunal.

 

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Yes lets emulate the greatest mass murderer in history. It is quite shocking that are clowns out there who post this kind of drivel. Mao should have faced a war crimes and genocide tribunal.

Oh, leave him to his delusions Clanrickard.
While he is all over this site muttering in corners about dead despots, he can't be up north causing trouble
 

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Oh, leave him to his delusions Clanrickard.
While he is all over this site muttering in corners about dead despots, he can't be up north causing trouble
You know mate you are right. Lets keep her in the tent pissing out.
 

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Yes lets emulate the greatest mass murderer in history. It is quite shocking that are clowns out there who post this kind of drivel. Mao should have faced a war crimes and genocide tribunal.

For what particular war crimes?
 

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The Tibetans would be interested in your thesis that the PRC is an inspiration to "oppressed peoples"..... :roll:
 

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The Tibetans would be interested in your thesis that the PRC is an inspiration to "oppressed peoples"..... :roll:
The liberation of the Chinese province of Tibet which had long been under the control of "God-Kings" up to all sorts of "Trantric" strangeness with young girls (and I mean childern) where the vast majiority of the population was treated horribly was one of the glories of the "Mao era".

I believe that they had the death penalty before for homosexuality in Tibet which was abolished after the People's Liberation Army ousted the Lamas. So you shouldnt complain about that to much.

Interesting non-Communist book on the realities of Tibetan "Buddhism" (which actually doesnt have much connection with the teachings of the Buddha himself).

The Shadow of the Dalai Lama – Contents
 

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The liberation of the Chinese province of Tibet which had long been under the control of "God-Kings" up to all sorts of "Trantric" strangeness with young girls (and I mean childern) where the vast majiority of the population was treated horribly was one of the glories of the "Mao era".

I believe that they had the death penalty before for homosexuality in Tibet which was abolished after the People's Liberation Army ousted the Lamas. So you shouldnt complain about that to much.

Interesting non-Communist book on the realities of Tibetan "Buddhism" (which actually doesnt have much connection with the teachings of the Buddha himself).

The Shadow of the Dalai Lama – Contents
That doesn't justify China's genocide of 2 million Tibetans since 1949 and the colonisation of the country by Han Chinese settlers. Also, the question of whether it was part of China in 1949 is not settled, as the UN General Assembly ruled some decades ago that Tibet was an independent country before then.
 

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Yes lets emulate the greatest mass murderer in history. It is quite shocking that are clowns out there who post this kind of drivel. Mao should have faced a war crimes and genocide tribunal.


Haven't seen that shot before. It bears a weird resemblance to one of the pictures from the Mai Li massacre -



I had to look twice to make sure it wasn't simply another shot of the same scene.
 

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That doesn't justify China's genocide of 2 million Tibetans since 1949 and the colonisation of the country by Han Chinese settlers. Also, the question of whether it was part of China in 1949 is not settled, as the UN General Assembly ruled some decades ago that Tibet was an independent country before then.
You really have know idea of what you are on about.

Do you really think the Lamas coming back would be a good thing?

During the Cultural Revolution the central goverment had to send the PLA into Tibet to stop the Tibetans from slaughtering every single last monk.

The amount of Han Chinese in that region of China is relatively small, and they tend to return home after working on teaching or development projects. Should we also be concerned about Kerry people moving to Dublin? About Culchies taking over Dublin? :rolleyes:

But to be honest I dont know much about that region after the Mao era.
 

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Do you have a job?
How is that material to the subject at hand?
 

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You really have know idea of what you are on about.

Do you really think the Lamas coming back would be a good thing?

During the Cultural Revolution the central goverment had to send the PLA into Tibet to stop the Tibetans from slaughtering every single last monk.

The amount of Han Chinese in that region of China is relatively small, and they tend to return home after working on teaching or development projects. Should we also be concerned about Kerry people moving to Dublin? About Culchies taking over Dublin? :rolleyes:

But to be honest I dont know much about that region after the Mao era.
Noone believes the official govt Census for Tibet. In reality, the Han Chinese are at least 55% of the population of Llasa and probably 2-thirds of the population of Tibet.
 

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The Long March was a farce. Mao forced extreme conditions on his fellow soldiers both male and female, making his wife leave 2 new borns - his children with peasants on the way. All to get to the North to avoid his leadership being questioned because the Communists in China were fully aware of how bad a leader he was. Getting to the North he was able to convince the Russian communists he was the better and sealed his Leadership. Harsh conditions, death, Typhoid for his soldiers were of no concern to him. His wife committed suicide later being mentally deranged with longing to know where her and his children had survived.
Yeah the Great Mao
 

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The Long March was a farce. Mao forced extreme conditions on his fellow soldiers both male and female, making his wife leave 2 new borns - his children with peasants on the way. All to get to the North to avoid his leadership being questioned because the Communists in China were fully aware of how bad a leader he was. Getting to the North he was able to convince the Russian communists he was the better and sealed his Leadership. Harsh conditions, death, Typhoid for his soldiers were of no concern to him. His wife committed suicide later being mentally deranged with longing to know where her and his children had survived.
Yeah the Great Mao
All to stop them being eliminated by Chiang Kai-shek...!
 

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Noone believes the official govt Census for Tibet. In reality, the Han Chinese are at least 55% of the population of Llasa and probably 2-thirds of the population of Tibet.
Care to provide evidence that 'no-one believes the figures'?

Because your assertion doesn't add up.
 

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Haven't seen that shot before. It bears a weird resemblance to one of the pictures from the Mai Li massacre -

I had to look twice to make sure it wasn't simply another shot of the same scene.
All those Asiatics look the same to you, right?
 

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During Mao's "Great Leap Forward" from 1958, the Great Helmsman directly or indirectly caused the deaths of millions of Chinese by starvation or massacre. Much the same thing happened in the Cultural Revolution.

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Mao out-Stalined Stalin - the Long March is presented as a military victory, in fact it was a military disaster. It was an even worse disaster that Mao survived.
 


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