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Taliban oppression poster girl unveils new nose


Aindriu

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And THIS is why coalition troops are in Afghanistan!

A woman who became the poster girl of Taliban oppression in Afghanistan after being mutilated by her husband has unveiled her new face to the world.
The image of Aisha, 19, without a nose, prompted a worldwide outpouring of sympathy after it appeared on the cover of Time Magazine accompanying an article highlighting the plight of women in Afghanistan.
Full article here.
 

firefly123

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It was all Americas fault.... in 3, 2, 1.....
 

redtoothclaw

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Don't bother.

The suicidal marxists who post on politics.ie don't care about the plight of women in Afghanistan because if they supported killing the primitive Taliban savages that would be racist and Islamophobic and would mean they would have to cheer on the U.S. and admit that Bush was right all along about killing the pukes.

They are still smarting that the Soviets lost in Afghanistan which is why they delight in telling us all how the CIA created the Taliban and smile inside when Islamic wingnut terrorists behead aid workers because it means America is embarrassed.

Some of them would probably put Al-Qaeda terrorists in their box room if it meant there could be a massacre on Grafton Street so they could wag their finger at Cowen and scream I told you so over Shannon Warport.

They would probably volunteer to be beheaded if it embarrassed U.S.

Every war is a quagmire and another Vietnam to these morons.
 

Ulster-Lad

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Ouch
 

asknoquestions

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I heard native Americans also chop off women's noses if they are unfaithful. Is the US going to invade Native American tribal territories now?
 

Ulster-Lad

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They cut off her nose and ears.
 

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It's a very good job:
This:


From this:
 

Super8

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Pretty girl gets new western nose – propaganda loaded with metaphor nothing more. Wouldn't have happened an older or less alluring woman.

American troops in Afghanistan is nothing to do with women's rights. Read history and stop falling for silly stunts on both sides. It's about power and wealth.

Power and wealth.
 

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They cut off her nose and ears.
And the most powerful nations in the world now hide behind her image, daring you to question them, for the logic of advancing celebritised victims (carried out by the enemy) is that questioning them is condoning what happened to her or some such zero-sum logic.

What about the Afghans who were killed so their fingerbones could be collected by US troops? Or the people dodging robowars drone attacks in that country today? The US is against wikileaks because it might release information like that video massacre a while back, the struggle to control what you are allowed to know and see and believe they see as a part of the war effort.

The West in their negotiations with the Taliban would drop women's rights issues like a stone if it meant that their geopolitical objectives in being there could be met, as they did in Iraq.....

IRAQ: Women were more respected under Saddam, say women's groups

According to the findings of a recent survey by local rights NGOs, women were treated better during the Saddam Hussein era – and their rights were more respected – than they are now.

"We interviewed women in the country and met with local NGOs dealing with gender issues to develop this survey, which asked questions about the quality of women's life and respect for their rights," said Senar Muhammad, president of Baghdad-based NGO Woman Freedom Organisation. "The results show that women are less respected now than they were under the previous regime, while their freedom has been curtailed."
Tis no wonder former Afghan MP Malala Joy has condemned the Western invasion of her country, she contends that Afghanistan was starting to make progress for women's rights when the US attacked. When you bring war you reduce women's status to the minimum value at a stroke, that's one of the first effects of warfare.

ZCommunications | Malalai Joya by Johann Hari | ZNet Article

"I realized women's rights had been sold out completely... Most people in the West have been led to believe that the intolerance and brutality towards women in Afghanistan began with the Taliban regime. But this is a lie. Many of the worst atrocities were committed by the fundamentalist mujahedin during the civil war between 1992 and 1996. They introduced the laws oppressing women followed by the Taliban - and now they were marching back to power, backed by the United States. They immediately went back to their old habit of using rape to punish their enemies and reward their fighters."
 

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Cutting off peoples noses is not on. The media did overtime on that story, it was used to justify the war- The forces of good are needed to protect innocents from Taliban barbarians, that was the jist of it.



The same media didn't make such a big deal out of this story;

Twelve American soldiers face charges over a secret "kill team" that allegedly blew up and shot Afghan civilians at random and collected their fingers as trophies.
US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies' | World news | The Guardian

It didn't fit in with the agenda.
 

Chuck de Mawl

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rather than western propoganda...

According to Afghan women, that type of behaviour is found by both sides on the civil war in Afghanistan, but of course the Northern Alliance & fellow warlords are allies so, their crimes don't merit attention, much like those of the Taliban did not merit attention before their falling out with the Western powers.

You can throw in one line simple arguments all you like, but the women of RAWA and Malalai Joya have a closer view on the situation than some smug git who likes to stroke his ego by reinforcing his bias for western action, and against any of its critics.

Emancipation of Afghan women not attainable as long as the occupation, Taliban and ?National Front? criminals are not sacked! « RAWA
 

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And the most powerful nations in the world now hide behind her image, daring you to question them, for the logic of advancing celebritised victims (carried out by the enemy) is that questioning them is condoning what happened to her or some such zero-sum logic.

What about the Afghans who were killed so their fingerbones could be collected by US troops? Or the people dodging robowars drone attacks in that country today? The US is against wikileaks because it might release information like that video massacre a while back, the struggle to control what you are allowed to know and see and believe they see as a part of the war effort.

The West in their negotiations with the Taliban would drop women's rights issues like a stone if it meant that their geopolitical objectives in being there could be met, as they did in Iraq.....

IRAQ: Women were more respected under Saddam, say women's groups



Tis no wonder former Afghan MP Malala Joy has condemned the Western invasion of her country, she contends that Afghanistan was starting to make progress for women's rights when the US attacked. When you bring war you reduce women's status to the minimum value at a stroke, that's one of the first effects of warfare.

ZCommunications | Malalai Joya by Johann Hari | ZNet Article
Silly me. I thought this thread was about an act of compassion and mercy extended to an Afghan woman that had been mutilated by the Taliban. I did not realise it was a rant about the war again.
 

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Silly me. I thought this thread was about an act of compassion and mercy extended to an Afghan woman that had been mutilated by the Taliban. I did not realise it was a rant about the war again.
Well then you must try and pay more attention, the first line in the OP is this...

And THIS is why coalition troops are in Afghanistan!
For the record i am personally delighted for the woman herself, the new job looks fantastic.
 

Chuck de Mawl

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And THIS is why coalition troops are in Afghanistan!
Sure it is. Well, I'm glad this woman got help, but where's the help for those who are freezing, starving, driven from their homes by (currently) pro-western warlords?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7jAT0FAGBc]YouTube - Rethink Afghanistan War (Part 5): Women of Afghanistan[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krHV9iT20zw&feature=channel]YouTube - Rethink Afghanistan War (Part 4): Civilian Casualties[/ame]
 

Chuck de Mawl

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See that kid in the yellow top in the second video? She died in that camp. Where's her picture in Time Magazine?
 

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And the most powerful nations in the world now hide behind her image, daring you to question them, for the logic of advancing celebritised victims (carried out by the enemy) is that questioning them is condoning what happened to her or some such zero-sum logic.

What about the Afghans who were killed so their fingerbones could be collected by US troops? Or the people dodging robowars drone attacks in that country today? The US is against wikileaks because it might release information like that video massacre a while back, the struggle to control what you are allowed to know and see and believe they see as a part of the war effort.

The West in their negotiations with the Taliban would drop women's rights issues like a stone if it meant that their geopolitical objectives in being there could be met, as they did in Iraq.....

IRAQ: Women were more respected under Saddam, say women's groups



Tis no wonder former Afghan MP Malala Joy has condemned the Western invasion of her country, she contends that Afghanistan was starting to make progress for women's rights when the US attacked. When you bring war you reduce women's status to the minimum value at a stroke, that's one of the first effects of warfare.

ZCommunications | Malalai Joya by Johann Hari | ZNet Article
Ah well, in that case try these links

Stories of Taliban atrocities spread as villagers flee over the front line - Asia, World - The Independent

taliban atrocities - Google Search

Column Taliban Atrocities against Swat Women

Taliban atrocities | The Propagandist

There are hundreds of links depicting Taliban atrocities on the web try a google search.

Also the link you posted is from one former Afghan MP that disagrees with the government. How many disagree with ours?
 

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There are hundreds of links depicting Taliban atrocities on the web try a google search.

And who is defending their reputation on here? Is there some kind of Pavlovian reaction going on here, that any criticism of the occupation is support for the worst excesses of the Taliban?
Either dishonesty or simple mindedness at work if that's the dichotomy.

Also the link you posted is from one former Afghan MP that disagrees with the government. How many disagree with ours?
RAWA is more than just one woman, and Joya is motivated by more than political disagreement. I met her once when she visited Europe. She has stood up to death threats and actuall attacks, for speaking up for women's rights. You can knock her from you keyboard all you like, but until you develop 10% of the guts she has shown, don't expect to be taken seriously.
 

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Don't bother.

The suicidal marxists who post on politics.ie don't care about the plight of women in Afghanistan because if they supported killing the primitive Taliban savages that would be racist and Islamophobic and would mean they would have to cheer on the U.S. and admit that Bush was right all along about killing the pukes.

They are still smarting that the Soviets lost in Afghanistan which is why they delight in telling us all how the CIA created the Taliban and smile inside when Islamic wingnut terrorists behead aid workers because it means America is embarrassed.

Some of them would probably put Al-Qaeda terrorists in their box room if it meant there could be a massacre on Grafton Street so they could wag their finger at Cowen and scream I told you so over Shannon Warport.

They would probably volunteer to be beheaded if it embarrassed U.S.

Every war is a quagmire and another Vietnam to these morons.
very very paranoid and disturbed post.

You can't read my mind or anyone else's. I was against these nutcases when the soviets were fighting them, and I'm against them now that the Americans are. most leftists I know are in the same (consistent) boat.

You however are clearly playing out all sorts of sick fantasies in your troubled head, and need help....
 

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And who is defending their reputation on here? Is there some kind of Pavlovian reaction going on here, that any criticism of the occupation is support for the worst excesses of the Taliban?
Either dishonesty or simple mindedness at work if that's the dichotomy.



RAWA is more than just one woman, and Joya is motivated by more than political disagreement. I met her once when she visited Europe. She has stood up to death threats and actuall attacks, for speaking up for women's rights. You can knock her from you keyboard all you like, but until you develop 10% of the guts she has shown, don't expect to be taken seriously.
The point is the people in Afghanistan are far better off now then they were under the Taliban. Afghanistan is being rebuilt and not destroyed as it was prior. Before the invasion the Taliban were ethnically cleansing select groups of the population and their culture.

I never tried to belittle RAWA. They are doing great work and are to be praised for their efforts. Do you really think they would even exist under the Taliban? I recall a soccer stadium that Europe built in Kabul that was used for the public execution of women.
 
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