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Tanya Doyle sentenced to life for stabbing husband 60 times


Druidess

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Tanya Doyle killed her husband Paul Byrne with a knife, stabbing and slashing him over sixty times.

It wasn’t the first time she had stabbed her husband, who she was separated from, but no action had been taken against her, it is not clear whether this was the husbands wishes or because the police never pressed the issue. It seems even though they were separated he still allowed her to stay overnight in his home.

She worked "as a glamour model, a prostitute and later ran an escort agency, the court was told" and was unhappy with the outcome of a court case regarding property. She also told a psychiatrist that she expected more money for a story sold to a paper about "being a high-class hooker." Money seemed to be a defining feature of her motivations.

Paul Byrne managed to phone the emergency services while he was being stabbed/slashed to death. An 8 minute recording includes him pleading with his wife, telling her he loved her and begging her not to kill him and finally pleading to let him die without any more torture.

This man had a truly terrible death. His brother had to identify his mutilated body and his family had to hear his voice on the recording. It seems the whole family are traumatized by the brutality suffered by their brother, the length of time it has taken to get justice and the loss of their loved one.

During the trial, Tanya Doyle showed no remorse for the murder. She told the guards who called to the house in response to the call that she had stabbed him 60 times because "I wanted a fresh start with decent money, he wouldn’t sign over the house.” She is alleged to have told a psychiatrist in 2001 that she would kill her husband and claim insanity as a means of escaping being held responsible. Tanya Doyle has been sentenced to life in prison for murder, she tried to get off on manslaughter.

I doubt anyone will say this is anything other than a heinous crime. My point in discussing this is the lack of media articles condemning the violence, than say if the roles were reversed and it was a man killing his wife in a similar manner.

We treat of male on female violence far more harshly than female on male violence. This would seem to be the case in the context of violence within an intimate relationship.

Men are generally much stronger than women are and have historically been in positions of power over women, perhaps hence the need for organisations dealing specifically with violence against women. But women can also be physically, mentally abusive,here we have an example that led to murder. Yet where is the outcry? Where are the articles that are usually written by columnists and commentators to accompany the murder of a wife? Is there a possibility that as a society, Irish people do not take violence seriously unless its perpetrated by a man?

Tanya Doyle found guilty of husband

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/jury-told-to-consider-a-lesser-verdict-in-dublin-murder-trial-587872.html

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/life-sentence-for-dublin-woman-who-stabbed-husband-1.1327434
 
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Is there a possibility that as a society, Irish people do not take violence seriously unless its perpetrated by a man?
Spontaneous crimes of passion by either sex are generally recognised as such by the courts, and a certain amount of leniency is applied as a result. It wasn't the case here and the court recognised that.
Speaking as a man, I'd confidently guess that most inter-sex relationship violence is perpetrated bymale upon female, but clearly not all. I think that our legal system from the bottom to the top has a grasp of this as well. Whether they can identify the culprit in every case is doubtful though.
 

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Let us not forget that we had the case of the man who killed his child recently before killing himself, where the predominant story in the media was of 'the good Dad'.

Crimes need to be called what they are in the media.
 

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Let us not forget that we had the case of the man who killed his child recently before killing himself, where the predominant story in the media was of 'the good Dad'.

Crimes need to be called what they are in the media.
Ahem,, Tanya did not kill herself after the sadistic murder of her husband ?? your comparisons are simply not valid.
She will probably be out on Tuesday with good behavior and all that lark, just turn it around for a mo,

Criminal that ran brothels etc stabs his wife 60 times in a frenzy even though his wife begged him that she loved him etc, now bear in mind your equality views ?

This Judgement is biased, ridiculous, and the message is simple, if you are a scumbag and you are a woman then don't worry about stabbing your husband 60 times. There is no other conclusion,
 
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Is there a possibility that as a society, Irish people do not take violence seriously unless its perpetrated by a man?
Is there a "possibility"??!! No doubt whatsoever.

The Death Penalty is perfectly appropriate in a case such as this.
 

pragmaticapproach

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Is there a "possibility"??!! No doubt whatsoever.

The Death Penalty is perfectly appropriate in a case such as this.
In principle, I'd agree with the death penalty in exceptional circumstances.
 

General Urko

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Proper order, she seemed very unpleasant from what came up in court! However yesterday WRT the woman in Galway aged 32 who stabbed her 60 year old boyfriend 18 times and caused him to die as a consequence was convicted of manslaughter and given around 7 years! Which indicates to me the fact that women tend to be treated very leniently when convicted of serious crimes by the courts!
Mind you she seems pretty good looking (Galway Girl) and will have to watch her jewelery while doing her porridge!:p
 

Lando Calrissian

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Crikey this is weird. There certainly is a peculiar attitude to women nutters.
I couldnt picture a similar thread about a wife killer.
 

General Urko

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BTW, this woman ran an escort agency, or so it seems, please take note the vast majority of people who work in the sex industry or who employ their services are not like this and there is nothing inherent in the industry that causes people to act like this!
 
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BTW, this woman ran an escort agency, or so it seems, please take note the vast majority of people who work in the sex industry or who employ their services are not like this and there is nothing inherent in the industry that causes people to act like this!
Are you a prostitute yourself?!

You think prostitution should be legalised...OK, we get it.
 

alloverbartheshouting

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Ahem,, Tanya did not kill herself after the sadistic murder of her husband ?? your comparisons are simply not valid.
She will probably be out on Tuesday with good behavior and all that lark, just turn it around for a mo,

Criminal that ran brothels etc stabs his wife 60 times in a frenzy even though his wife begged him that she loved him etc, now bear in mind your equality views ?

This Judgement is biased, ridiculous, and the message is simple, if you are a scumbag and you are a woman then don't worry about stabbing your husband 60 times. There is no other conclusion,
He/she can surely speak for themselves, but in fairness, I don't think you got Radix's point. Media coverage played as much a role in the Cork case as it does here, e.g. silence and/or pussy footing. As the OP stated, the case of Ms. Doyle seems to suggest that spousal abuse at the hands of a female is not as comment-worthy as spousal abuse at the hands of a male as far as the Irish medias are concerned.

Plus, how is the judgement biased? The defendant got life. How do you reckon that she will be out on Tuesday for good behaviour? For the record, I have worked in a women's domestic abuse refuge. The psychological and physical abuse that I had to document was horrific. However, this does not excuse or lessen that fact that a woman is capable of perpetrating the same towards a male partner/husband.
 

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I don't know how anyone could think a woman who committed a murder so deranged as this will see freedom for a very long time; despite the many controversial recent early releases.

Violent murders committed by women are rare here, but they tend to bring out the 'Hang 'em and flog 'em Brigade'.
So, we all agree there should be capital punishment for child murderers; so who's next, we can't omit someone who kills a grandmother for €5.....or violent spouse-killers.
There are very good reasons why no government will hold a referendum on the death penalty.


An Irish woman was imprisoned, abused, murdered, and dismembered recently in Wales and we didn't hear too many appeals for the return of the death penalty then.

To answer the OP, the woman was only sentenced today, most people won't have even known about this case until now.
I think most people take all violence seriously, regardless of the gender of the perpetrator.
The societal changes that are taking place so rapidly, the causes of increasing aggression among women as well as men, need to be examined.

Is it the normalisation of behaviour that communities would not have tolerated previously, alienation, drug abuse,family breakdown ?
 
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Is there a "possibility"??!! No doubt whatsoever.

The Death Penalty is perfectly appropriate in a case such as this.
You're a catholic nutjob who is prolife and you want this woman murdered. Fuking hell.
 

General Urko

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Are you a prostitute yourself?!

You think prostitution should be legalised...OK, we get it.
Only in the widest interpretation would I be a pro i.e. that we all have had to do things for money we would rather we didn't have to!
Of course it should be legalised and not dealt with as under the proposed Swedish client criminalisation model on the verge of being brought here! Which could possibly lead to derranged assaults such as this women committed but on vulnerable woman as the sex trade is driven further underground mainly at the insistence of religious nutters and radical man hating fems!:mad:
 
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