TD O’Connell compares Crumlin ED to South American facility

Myler

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Kate takes a child to an A&E, and is horrified to find sick people there.

She's also astonished to find people experiencing stress while attending a medical facility when their child is sick. Apparently, no automatic dispensing of Valium for parents. It's like South America! (Note: South America is full of backward foreigners, and we should not want to be like them.)

Kate was so appalled that, after seven hours of astonishment, she took her child home without being seen. Only the cynical would wonder why she was there in the first place, and why she didn't attend her GP out-of-hours service instead, as Government policy and professional health care advice suggests. If only Kate was a healthcare professional, or knew someone who is, she might have saved herself an unnecessary trip. And left a space in the queue for some who actually needed to be there.
 


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Where did she get her child treated after walking out of the ED after 7 hours? TDs don't normally have to wait in hospitals with the plebs so the usual "Do you know who I am?" mustn't have worked. Did she walk because she was angry at not being recognised and given the 5* treatment normally given to TDs?
 

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Having a son who has found himself in the ED in both CUH and Crumlin, I can assure her that Crumlin is one of the better ones.
 

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If you take your child to emergency and then leave after 7 hours untreated you probably need to self evaluate if it was actually an emergency.
 

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Why was she not aware of the scandal with A+E? People have been complaining about it for years.....it fell on deaf ears.
 
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Where did she get her child treated after walking out of the ED after 7 hours? TDs don't normally have to wait in hospitals with the plebs so the usual "Do you know who I am?" mustn't have worked. Did she walk because she was angry at not being recognised and given the 5* treatment normally given to TDs?
did u actualy read the article she said that she was afraid she would have being reconised and got abuse with te state of the ER. She does not state why she did leave, maybe her child had improved
 

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did u actualy read the article she said that she was afraid she would have being reconised and got abuse with te state of the ER. She does not state why she did leave, maybe her child had improved
After 7 hours without seeing anyone? Her child mustn't have been all that sick if that's the case.
 

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Kate takes a child to an A&E, and is horrified to find sick people there.

She's also astonished to find people experiencing stress while attending a medical facility when their child is sick. Apparently, no automatic dispensing of Valium for parents. It's like South America! (Note: South America is full of backward foreigners, and we should not want to be like them.)

Kate was so appalled that, after seven hours of astonishment, she took her child home without being seen. Only the cynical would wonder why she was there in the first place, and why she didn't attend her GP out-of-hours service instead, as Government policy and professional health care advice suggests. If only Kate was a healthcare professional, or knew someone who is, she might have saved herself an unnecessary trip. And left a space in the queue for some who actually needed to be there.
In a lot of cases u ring up the out of hour services, tell them what is wrong, they advise u to go to them or thy will an ambulance to bring u to the A&. 4 or 5 years ago my uncle was complaining of stomach pains on a Fri. evening, they rang Westdoc the out of hours GP service, he lives around 15 miles fom the WD centre. Their answer was send a ambulance out, brought to Castlebar A&E, indigestion he had
 

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After 7 hours without seeing anyone? Her child mustn't have been all that sick if that's the case.
It's a while since I've had the pleasure, but in my experience Crumlin and Tallaght (never used Temple Street) triage you pretty soon after arrival. If you've an urgent problem, in you go.

Otherwise, its the seven hour wait.

And its always a dreadful experience for a parent. It has absolutely nothing to do with the physical environment, the waiting time or anything else. You are there with your child. You expect the world should stop to notice your little tragedy, and you never quite understand that you're just not that important in the scheme of things, and your child (even if its a serious incident) won't expire in three seconds, or the hours and maybe even days it takes for results of a range of tests to be brought together and interpreted.

Its a rubbish intervention, which looks like it will get the WTF reaction it deserves.

Particularly glad that a Brazilian noticed the implied insult.
 

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Politician says what needs to be said based on real world experience and you still give it to her tight.

They cant win, can they?
The point she already knew all this unless her head was up her arse, she only got exercised when it effected her and her child. She never said FA when it only effected the plebs, now do you get it?
 

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If you take your child to emergency and then leave after 7 hours untreated you probably need to self evaluate if it was actually an emergency.
Did she go home or seek private medical assistance? Question worth asking.
 

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It's a while since I've had the pleasure, but in my experience Crumlin and Tallaght (never used Temple Street) triage you pretty soon after arrival. If you've an urgent problem, in you go.

Otherwise, its the seven hour wait.

And its always a dreadful experience for a parent. It has absolutely nothing to do with the physical environment, the waiting time or anything else. You are there with your child. You expect the world should stop to notice your little tragedy, and you never quite understand that you're just not that important in the scheme of things, and your child (even if its a serious incident) won't expire in three seconds, or the hours and maybe even days it takes for results of a range of tests to be brought together and interpreted.

Its a rubbish intervention, which looks like it will get the WTF reaction it deserves.

Particularly glad that a Brazilian noticed the implied insult.
She claimed she left without seeing a clinician, which implies nobody saw her at all.
 

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She claimed she left without seeing a clinician, which implies nobody saw her at all.
She partly implies that, however triage is normally done by a nurse, rather than a clinician.

The (safe) assumption is that the nurse knows enough to be able to judge if a patient needs immediate assessment of a doctor, or if they can wait.
 

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I agree, and that is why people are so reluctant to enter politics
Elections are never short of candidates, so how do you come to that conclusion?

Now, GOOD people are reluctant to enter politics because the establishment will do all it can to protect itself.
 


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