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that's our president; out there questioning the social conscious of economics and the assumptions on which it's based


dancl2000

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that's our president; out there questioning the social conscious of economics and the assumptions on which it's based

Michael D got a standing ovation from the eu parliament for this speech
Address by President Michael D. Higgins

Some of the key points
- [Citizens] feel that in general terms the economic narrative of recent years has been driven by dry technical concerns; for example, by calculations that are abstract and not drawn from real problems, geared primarily by a consideration of the impact of such measures on speculative markets, rather than driven by sufficient compassion and empathy with the predicament of European citizens who are members of a union, and for whom all of the resources of Europe’s capacity, political, social, economic and intellectual might have been drawn on, driven by the binding moral spirit of a union.

- There is nothing more corrosive to society and more crushing to an individual than endemic unemployment, particularly among the young.

- [neoclassical economics ] is of course useful for limited and defined tasks. It is insufficient however as an approach for our problems and our future.

- [ our people] merely as dependent variables to the opinions of rating agencies, agencies unaccountable to any demos, and indeed found to be fallible on occasion, then instead of being citizens we would be reduced to the status of mere consumers

I dont think anyone could have said it better, fair play to Michael D
 


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Michael D got a standing ovation from the eu parliament for this speech
Address by President Michael D. Higgins

Some of the key points
- [Citizens] feel that in general terms the economic narrative of recent years has been driven by dry technical concerns; for example, by calculations that are abstract and not drawn from real problems, geared primarily by a consideration of the impact of such measures on speculative markets, rather than driven by sufficient compassion and empathy with the predicament of European citizens who are members of a union, and for whom all of the resources of Europe’s capacity, political, social, economic and intellectual might have been drawn on, driven by the binding moral spirit of a union.

- There is nothing more corrosive to society and more crushing to an individual than endemic unemployment, particularly among the young.

- [neoclassical economics ] is of course useful for limited and defined tasks. It is insufficient however as an approach for our problems and our future.

- [ our people] merely as dependent variables to the opinions of rating agencies, agencies unaccountable to any demos, and indeed found to be fallible on occasion, then instead of being citizens we would be reduced to the status of mere consumers

I dont think anyone could have said it better, fair play to Michael D
Has Michael D as President of Ireland signed of on legislation that has resulted in Austerity been imposed in Ireland????
 

ShoutingIsLeadership

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Presumably he didn't get infracted for turning a phrase 'as Gaeilge', at any point during the speech.
 
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Wow, Irish "king with no clothes" politician gets applauded by "European kings with no clothes" politicians....who knew
 

P Ryan

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Hind sight and a 6 figure state funded salary cum pension must be great.
Sooo, I wonder when Ian McKellan & a bunch of vertically challenged bearded gentlemen are going to make a visit to Micky D's Aras one evening and take him off for an adventure. petunia
 

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Has Michael D as President of Ireland signed of on legislation that has resulted in Austerity been imposed in Ireland????
On what grounds constitutional grounds do you believe he could have refused to sign?
 

Gracchus

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Fair play to him, yes he's overpaid, doesn't do a whole pile etc etc but finally after 3 terms of toxic presidents we have a president we can be proud of. Keep up the good work.
 

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A social democratic speech veering on a socialist. He promised to be a President for all the people : he lied.

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It was an excellent speech, focussing heavily on a topic that badly needs to be addressed - the primacy of dubious economic doctrine over all other considerations. Well worth reading in full.
 

darkhorse

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Obviously nobody likes austerity
But did he come up with any alternatives?
 

Nermal

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Glib prattle stuff really. Why doesn't he say what he means?

He wants debt-sharing, inflation and to prioritise employment and growth over monetary stability. He doesn't state it in bald terms because he doesn't sound as clever or meaningful then.

His office is a fantastic waste of money. Do your bit for endemic unemployment Michael: resign and call for the office of president to be abolished, and we can spend your salary doing something useful instead.
 

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On what grounds constitutional grounds do you believe he could have refused to sign?
He has no grounds but he is a great man for talking the talk and that's about it. If he really believed in what he was taking about he would show leadership and sacrifice his massive salary, and call out on all the waste and nepotism that is in place in this dodgy State.
 

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