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The 2013 continued bullying of public sector workers by Independent newspapers.


RobertW

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Now that 2013 is well under way and given recent allegations from within the traditional print media against online contributors, I've decided to setup a thread listing articles referencing the public sector in articles produced by Independent News & Media (INM) throughout 2013.

Any reference to public servants by INM in their main Irish publications (the Independent & Sunday Independent) to public servants will slowly reveal (for this year in anyway) the ongoing 5 year campaign by INM to make public sector workers entirely responsible for the collapse of the Irish economy and for the ongoing running deficit by publishing "revealing" articles attacking the pay and conditions of public sector workers without any evidence provided within the article whatsoever.

1 - 9th January 2013: The Independent claim that the NCCA are holding teachers responsible for making the CAO race "even harder" for their students. There is no reference or attributable comment provided by any member of the NCCA.

Teachers make CAO race even harder for students - Latest News, Education - Independent.ie

2 - 11th January 2013: The Independent report that 18,500 public sector workers will lose their jobs if there is no new deal on Croke Park 2. Quoting general secretary of the Public Service Executive Union, Tom Geraghty, the Independent return to state that ICTU aim "to protect the Croke Park deal's guarantees that jobs, pay and pensions" as if this should be some surprise. The Independent conveniently forget that the programme for government set up by FG/Lab in 2011 aims to reduce the number of public sector workers by 23,000.

Union leader warns of 18,500 lay-offs if deal fails on new Croke Park - National News - Independent.ie

3 - 12th January 2013: The Irish Independent claim that Irish doctors are paid too much in a confidential European Commission 72 page report as part of the bailout that their journalists have "seen". Without any referencing the Independent continue to claim that "calls for workers protected by the Croke Park agreement to bring their pay into line with civil servants in other countries."
As an aside the Independent state that "Irish banks could need a further bailout if the outlook for economic growth gets much worse"before going on to "examine" the pay of consultants. No reference to the report with no attributable references to those compiling the report are provided by the three journalists who compiled it.

Doctors here are paid too much, says new EU report - National News - Independent.ie

4 - 13th January 2013: The Sunday Independent report that another 5000 public sector workers are set "for the chop". The headline language ("for the chop") itself comes across as inflammatory as somehow I couldn't imagine a headline along the lines of "5000 Intel workers for the chop". Interestingly the article goes onto suggest that 5000 public sector workers in the Departments of Agriculture and Health are to be offered voluntary redundancy. However an entirely different angle is suggested, as always, twice within the article - and that is that public service increments "could be scrapped or deferred as part of a new Croke Park Agreement". As the negotiations between Ministers-Senior Civil Servants and leaders of the public sector unions are due to begin tomorrow it is very much difficult how the SI have come to this conclusion. Scrapping incremental pay rises damages those at the bottom of the PS and has little effect of those at the top. . .

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/another-5000-public-service-jobs-set-for-chop-3350342.html

5 - 14th January 2013: Easy money to be earned working as a journalist for INM as effectively different journalists write the same articles over a number of different days. In today's article, from Fionnan Sheahan (whose wife is a senator for the party which led the country to the brink of bankruptcy), "workers who resist . . . Will be targeted" according to the "senior government source".

Indeed many of the issues that Sheehan (like incremental freezes) states are on the agenda may or ma not be on the agenda. In the end it will be up to union members themselves to vote and they will be perfectly entitled to say "NO"

The title of the heading "No more 'jobs for life' in public service, warns Government" is quite a humorous one when you consider that Kenny, Noonan and Howlin have been hanging around Leinster House since 1975, 1981 and 1983 respectively and no one quite knows how long the permanent government (senior CS) are operating.

No more 'jobs for life' in public service, warns Government - National News - Independent.ie
 
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Bobcolebrooke

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Ireland borrows massive amounts of money, to pay our Public Sector much more money, than the Nations that are lending to us do!
 

davoid

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Now that 2013 is well under way and given recent allegations from within the traditional print media against online contributors, I've decided to setup a thread listing articles referencing the public sector in articles produced by Independent News & Media (INM) throughout 2013.

Any reference to public servants by INM in their main Irish publications (the Independent & Sunday Independent) to public servants will slowly reveal (for this year in anyway) the ongoing 5 year campaign by INM to make public sector workers entirely responsible for the collapse of the Irish economy and for the ongoing running deficit by publishing "revealing" articles attacking the pay and conditions of public sector workers without any evidence provided within the article whatsoever.

1 - 9th January 2013: The Independent claim that the NCCA are holding teachers responsible for making the CAO race "even harder" for their students. There is no reference or attributable comment provided by any member of the NCCA.

Teachers make CAO race even harder for students - Latest News, Education - Independent.ie

2 - 11th January 2013: The Independent report that 18,500 public sector workers will lose their jobs if there is no new deal on Croke Park 2. Quoting general secretary of the Public Service Executive Union, Tom Geraghty, the Independent return to state that ICTU aim "to protect the Croke Park deal's guarantees that jobs, pay and pensions" as if this should be some surprise. The Independent conveniently forget that the programme for government set up by FG/Lab in 2011 aims to reduce the number of public sector workers by 23,000.

Union leader warns of 18,500 lay-offs if deal fails on new Croke Park - National News - Independent.ie

3 - 12th January 2013: The Irish Independent claim that Irish doctors are paid too much in a confidential European Commission 72 page report as part of the bailout that their journalists have "seen". Without any referencing the Independent continue to claim that "calls for workers protected by the Croke Park agreement to bring their pay into line with civil servants in other countries."
As an aside the Independent state that "Irish banks could need a further bailout if the outlook for economic growth gets much worse"before going on to "examine" the pay of consultants. No reference to the report with no attributable references to those compiling the report are provided by the three journalists who compiled it.

Doctors here are paid too much, says new EU report - National News - Independent.ie
Look forward to more examples of victimhood.
 

commonman

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Well done RobertW , you are in for a rough day but you will handle it.
 

Clanrickard

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Now that 2013 is well under way and given recent allegations from within the traditional print media against online contributors, I've decided to setup a thread listing articles referencing the public sector in articles produced by Independent News & Media (INM) throughout 2013.

Any reference to public servants by INM in their main Irish publications (the Independent & Sunday Independent) to public servants will slowly reveal (for this year in anyway) the ongoing 5 year campaign by INM to make public sector workers entirely responsible for the collapse of the Irish economy and for the ongoing running deficit by publishing "revealing" articles attacking the pay and conditions of public sector workers without any evidence provided within the article whatsoever.

1 - 9th January 2013: The Independent claim that the NCCA are holding teachers responsible for making the CAO race "even harder" for their students. There is no reference or attributable comment provided by any member of the NCCA.

Teachers make CAO race even harder for students - Latest News, Education - Independent.ie

2 - 11th January 2013: The Independent report that 18,500 public sector workers will lose their jobs if there is no new deal on Croke Park 2. Quoting general secretary of the Public Service Executive Union, Tom Geraghty, the Independent return to state that ICTU aim "to protect the Croke Park deal's guarantees that jobs, pay and pensions" as if this should be some surprise. The Independent conveniently forget that the programme for government set up by FG/Lab in 2011 aims to reduce the number of public sector workers by 23,000.

Union leader warns of 18,500 lay-offs if deal fails on new Croke Park - National News - Independent.ie

3 - 12th January 2013: The Irish Independent claim that Irish doctors are paid too much in a confidential European Commission 72 page report as part of the bailout that their journalists have "seen". Without any referencing the Independent continue to claim that "calls for workers protected by the Croke Park agreement to bring their pay into line with civil servants in other countries."
As an aside the Independent state that "Irish banks could need a further bailout if the outlook for economic growth gets much worse"before going on to "examine" the pay of consultants. No reference to the report with no attributable references to those compiling the report are provided by the three journalists who compiled it.

Doctors here are paid too much, says new EU report - National News - Independent.ie
Waaaaaaaa! Everybody hates us waaaaaaaaaaa!
 

joemac67

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Now that 2013 is well under way and given recent allegations from within the traditional print media against online contributors, I've decided to setup a thread listing articles referencing the public sector in articles produced by Independent News & Media (INM) throughout 2013.

Any reference to public servants by INM in their main Irish publications (the Independent & Sunday Independent) to public servants will slowly reveal (for this year in anyway) the ongoing 5 year campaign by INM to make public sector workers entirely responsible for the collapse of the Irish economy and for the ongoing running deficit by publishing "revealing" articles attacking the pay and conditions of public sector workers without any evidence provided within the article whatsoever.

1 - 9th January 2013: The Independent claim that the NCCA are holding teachers responsible for making the CAO race "even harder" for their students. There is no reference or attributable comment provided by any member of the NCCA.

Teachers make CAO race even harder for students - Latest News, Education - Independent.ie

2 - 11th January 2013: The Independent report that 18,500 public sector workers will lose their jobs if there is no new deal on Croke Park 2. Quoting general secretary of the Public Service Executive Union, Tom Geraghty, the Independent return to state that ICTU aim "to protect the Croke Park deal's guarantees that jobs, pay and pensions" as if this should be some surprise. The Independent conveniently forget that the programme for government set up by FG/Lab in 2011 aims to reduce the number of public sector workers by 23,000.

Union leader warns of 18,500 lay-offs if deal fails on new Croke Park - National News - Independent.ie

3 - 12th January 2013: The Irish Independent claim that Irish doctors are paid too much in a confidential European Commission 72 page report as part of the bailout that their journalists have "seen". Without any referencing the Independent continue to claim that "calls for workers protected by the Croke Park agreement to bring their pay into line with civil servants in other countries."
As an aside the Independent state that "Irish banks could need a further bailout if the outlook for economic growth gets much worse"before going on to "examine" the pay of consultants. No reference to the report with no attributable references to those compiling the report are provided by the three journalists who compiled it.

Doctors here are paid too much, says new EU report - National News - Independent.ie
whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, boo hoooooooooooooooooo
 

linny55

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The Indo/Sindo have to blame someone for the situation we're in [ we are where we are] when they were 100% complicit in the fiasco.
 

joemac67

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No - not really.

Public servants are widely respected both doing their jobs and within the communities they live. Sorry to disappoint you.
And everybody favors croke park , you are the most deluded idiot posting here and that's quite an achievement .
 

joemac67

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Looks as if the nutters of P.ie have been let out of their cages for the day.

:lol:
The real nutters are people in the public sector like your good self who think that they might get any sympathy from the majority of workers in the private sector in this country who have been screwed royally to keep you incompetent fools as the highest paid in Europe . Change is going to be forced on this government and the public sector and not before time .
 

davoid

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tell me robert, how does pointing out that doctors are very well paid become bullying of public servants?

Obviously you would prefer the guff masquerading as facts by Tom Geraghty in the Irish Times. (It would qualify as the third in the series Noddy & Noddy Rides again..........)
 

OCicero

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If it is true there is a de-facto boycott of indo wood-pulp by parts of the PS and their families, their stance is coming at a cost to their circulation figures.
 

RobertW

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tell me robert, how does pointing out that doctors are very well paid become bullying of public servants?
The purpose of the opening post is quite clear.

INM cannot be relied up to provide an objective analysis on the matters they're commenting on. There's nothing "independent" about them whatsoever.

This thread will reveal the ongoing hypocrisy of INM as they, on the one hand, blame online contributors for bullying whilst they themselves issue articles without proper referencing or sources that can be verified.

As it happens I do not believe that a consultant on 116k is overpaid.
 

darkhorse

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What do you expect? - the country is being held to ransom by the PS
Property tax this year, water charges next year, reduced levels of service, higher taxes
All to bring in money to pay for the PS and pensions
With the threat of strike in the background
 

Socratus O' Pericles

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The Indo/Sindo have to blame someone for the situation we're in [ we are where we are] when they were 100% complicit in the fiasco.
Their share price is €0.042 c from a high of around €32.00 -so I wouldn't be taking lectures on efficiency from them. Bankruptcy is only around the corner. Their strategy of alienating public servants ( a cohort of well educated news paper purchasers) has failed spectacularly. Personally I think all these calls for people to lose their jobs are unseemly but if jody corocoran was to lose his I'd be less upset than for a normal person:


they do not seem to have, within themselves, the ability to utilise a form of happiness. They believe it is for others to do that for them. They are, in short, inherently dysfunctional people.
This language is very similar to the language used by racists in relation to "them" & the other.

Public servants aren't cut out to be shiny happy people - Analysis, Opinion - Independent.ie
 

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