The 50c Prescription Levy

Petrus

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Friday 1st October is the implementation date for this new tax.

I really don't know where to start with this change.
It's aim, apparently, is to reduce item numbers for medical card patients.
Preventative medicines will bear the burden and that will cost this country more in the long run.

The ESRI report on Resource allocation in the Health Sector was quite clear in saying it was inappropriate.

From tomorrow, you will be taxed for being sick.
Homeless people will have to pay for their medicines.
Terminal cancer patients will have to pay for their medicines.

This country has turned a corner alright!
 


jimbo99

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Friday 1st October is the implementation date for this new tax.

I really don't know where to start with this change.
It's aim, apparently, is to reduce item numbers for medical card patients.
Preventative medicines will bear the burden and that will cost this country more in the long run.

The ESRI report on Resource allocation in the Health Sector was quite clear in saying it was inappropriate.

From tomorrow, you will be taxed for being sick.
Homeless people will have to pay for their medicines.
Terminal cancer patients will have to pay for their medicines.

This country has turned a corner alright!
My uncle was just with his pharmacist getting his monthly pills he said there was a big jar on the counter with the sign "Mary Harmey Tax jar, place 50C here"
 

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There is an eye opening front page of the Dundalk Argus this week,
The Argus Digital Edition
Daisy Hill sees rise since downgrading of Louth

THREE months after the downgrading of the Louth County Hospital, there has already been a surge in the numbers choosing to go North for emergency treatment, The Argus can reveal.
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from July 5th to September 5th, there was a 37% increase in patients from the Louth area attending Daisy Hill for emergency treatment.

The Argus revealed earlier this year that the numbers of women from Louth choosing to have their babies in Newry has rocketed in the ten years since the closure of the maternity unit at the Louth.

From single percentage points in 2000, births to Louth mothers now account for more than 15% of births at Daisy Hill Hospital.

A spokesperson from the Southern Health and Social Care Trust said: ‘Overall the Trust is experiencing increased demand for A&E services.

‘The Trust is continuing to monitor the impact of patient activity from the Republic of Ireland on A&E services on a weekly basis’.

A breakdown of the figures show that of a sample of 31 Louth people who were treated in Newry’s accident and emergency 25 went there themselves, while five were referred by their GPs. Just one was brought there by ambulance.

When asked about charging patients, the Trust spokesperson said: ‘ Trusts are entitled to charge patients attending A&E departments for non-emergency treatment if they are not ordinarily resident within Northern Ireland.

‘Patients from the Republic of Ireland with life threatening conditions who need emergency treatment at their nearest A&E department are not charged if they attend Southern Trust hospitals.


‘However, patients from the Republic who attend Daisy Hill or Craigavon Area hospitals for non-emergency treatment will be charged’.
Do you think if we explain what a mess Fianna Fail has made of
the republic, the Crown might accept us back.
 

Petrus

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From memory Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have either scrapped prescription charges or will scrap prescription charges.

Prescription charges in the UK only generally apply to those people who would NOT have a medical card in this country.

The levy has thrown up a few anomalies....
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Diabetics who do not qualify for a medical card will get their diabetic medication free tomorrow.
Diabetics with a medical card will have to pay tomorrow.
 

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So how soon can we expect the announcement that the 50c per item prescription charge has been dropped?
 

TomKehoe

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So how soon can we expect the announcement that the 50c per item prescription charge has been dropped?
As soon as the new Minister for Health finds €25m down the back of a couch in Hawkings House to replace the annual yield from the prescription tax.
 

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As soon as the new Minister for Health finds €25m down the back of a couch in Hawkings House to replace the annual yield from the prescription tax.
The abolition of this ridiculous fee would be one thing that would generate good will for the new Government . It is probably costing more than 25 million for the chemists to administer .
 

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I thought it was more than 5oc. or did you mean 5 per cent
 

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The abolition of this ridiculous fee would be one thing that would generate good will for the new Government . It is probably costing more than 25 million for the chemists to administer .
The cost of the chemists administering it isn't being born by the state, though

Urmentor - it is definitively 50c per item up to a max of €10 per month per family.
 

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The medical card patient pays 50c per item. Rumour has it that the Green Book is soon to be abolished and that everybody with a Green Book will be given a Medical Card.
 

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From memory Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have either scrapped prescription charges or will scrap prescription charges.

Prescription charges in the UK only generally apply to those people who would NOT have a medical card in this country.

The levy has thrown up a few anomalies....
eg
Diabetics who do not qualify for a medical card will get their diabetic medication free tomorrow.
Diabetics with a medical card will have to pay tomorrow.
I'm living in England at the moment. All prescriptions cost £7.20 no matter what they are for. There are numerous exemptions for people on welfare etc, who pay nothing.
Prescriptions for children cost nothing.

And yes, Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have either scrapped prescription charges or will scrap prescription charges in the near future. Only England pays, and the charge is pretty small.

I know someone in Cork who is on the exact same long term medication as me. He pays something like €80 a month for his. I pay £7.20.
 

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Heard some scangers on the bus recently having a 'hissy fit' over this 50 cent charge.

If it acts as a disincentive to some people seeking frivolous/unnecessary over prescribing by doctors, this charge is well worth keeping in place and may well save money.
 

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If it acts as a disincentive to some people seeking frivolous/unnecessary over prescribing by doctors, this charge is well worth keeping in place and may well save money.
Precisely, also impacts positively on the mentality of the entitlement culture that wants everything for free
 

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The idea was Mary Harney's in order to remind the poor that medical care is not a right but a privilege. It is in keeping with the goal of making the Irish system similar to the American one.
 

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The idea was Mary Harney's in order to remind the poor that medical care is not a right but a privilege. It is in keeping with the goal of making the Irish system similar to the American one.
I agree and in America at present a single mother with a 6 month old child is more likely to be in full time employment than a single mother with a 16 year old child in 1970 and so on.
 

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Heard some scangers on the bus recently having a 'hissy fit' over this 50 cent charge.

If it acts as a disincentive to some people seeking frivolous/unnecessary over prescribing by doctors, this charge is well worth keeping in place and may well save money.
+1 We have to pay for our food, a huge amount of people pay heavily to pollute their bodies with cigarettes, illegal drugs and alcohol, why shouldn't we have to pay a small charge for our medicines? Why should people expect medicines for free? If it makes people stop and think what they're putting into their bodies, it's a good thing. I'm not some healthy fit freak and, in fact, am on disability allowance. I have had to pay this charge on several occasions. If you need the medicine you should be happy to pay a small charge for it!
 

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The aim of the prescription charge was to reduce the number of prescription items dispensed to medical card holders.

"The prescription charge seeks to influence demand and prescribing patterns in the General Medical Services Scheme in a modest way."
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Personally, I believe it is just a revenue collection exercise!
 

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From RTÉ.ie/news

James Reilly to scrap 50c prescription charge

Last Updated: 16 March 2011 14:27

Minister for Health Dr James Reilly has promised to scrap the 50c prescription charge, possibly even later this year.
In his first television interview, the Minister said he would discuss the matter with his health officials.
Dr Reilly said the prescription charge was not a wise policy as it could prevent people from being able to get their medicines.
How has he found the €25m to fill the gap this will put in the drugs budget?
What evidence is there that this modest charge prevented people from being able to get their medicines?
 

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Of course he has. Sure James Reilly - sorry, Dr. Reilly - would never engage in uncosted populist giveaways. Wait a minute...
 

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Why do we call this site Politics.ie when there is nothing political about it. Is everything really so blakc and white. Surely politics are not black and white.

Some of the medicines that go to waste by patients by their getting too many literally cost hundreds or thousands of euros. A packet of some very noraml drug can cost the State hundreds. So a simple idea was coined to charge 50cents, but save thousands upon thousands of Euros. Incidentally this could be put back into Beds in hospitals or maintaining Benefits for unemployed. But no, in a response to populism we have James Reilly to scrap 50c prescription charge - RT News

The OP referred to this 50c as a tax, so basically we are happy not to pay the 50c we are aware of but to waste hundreds and thousands of euro per patient that we are not.

Step away from the soundbites. Real politics is much more interesting and requires more inquisitiveness.
 


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