The Anti-Trump hysteria; what I think it means.

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This is shaping into a war with the bulk of working people, the part of the middle class who are pious and/or patriotic (or even anything resembling what their grandparents would consider normal and healthy when were their age) with those Capitalists who don't see globalism as being in their interests on one side with the Globalist elite, their flying monkeys among the middle class and/or functionaires as well as groups within the working class aided by lumpens who they have convinced that anyone who is agin Globalism is also agin them. Pound to a penny it will be the Globalist forces that shed first blood. In the present context the old Cold War dividing lines between "Left" and "Right" have to come to mean increasing nothing next to this principle contradiction in our Western societies as you have "Leftists" and "Rightists" on both sides.
 
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This is shaping into a war with the bulk of working people, the part of the middle class who are pious and/or patriotic (or even anything resembling what their grandparents would consider normal and healthy when were their age) with those Capitalists who don't see globalism as being in their interests on one side with the Globalist elite, their flying monkeys among the middle class and/or functionaires as well as groups within the working class aided by lumpens who they have convinced that anyone who is agin Globalism is also agin them. Pound to a penny it will be the Globalist forces that shed first blood. In the present context the old Cold War dividing lines between "Left" and "Right" have to come to mean increasing next to this principle contradiction in our Western societies as you have "Leftists" and "Rightists" on both sides.
sorry REF - I am afraid you are way off base - the uprising against Trump is based on a massive response by working class people, women, young people and immigrants against the whiff of reactionary, mysoginistic, racist, homophobic etc antics of Trump.
 

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both of you are wrong. Its about re alignments in capitalism post recession working themselves out.
 

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sorry REF - I am afraid you are way off base - the uprising against Trump is based on a massive response by working class people, women, young people and immigrants against the whiff of reactionary, mysoginistic, racist, homophobic etc antics of Trump.
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sorry REF - I am afraid you are way off base - the uprising against Trump is based on a massive response by working class people, women, young people and immigrants against the whiff of reactionary, mysoginistic, racist, homophobic etc antics of Trump.
He is not homophobic he has kept Obamas anti discrimination LGBT executive order for employees. Remains to be seen what he does with the other LGBT ones.
 

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sorry REF - I am afraid you are way off base - the uprising against Trump is based on a massive response by working class people, women, young people and immigrants against the whiff of reactionary, mysoginistic, racist, homophobic etc antics of Trump.
Most of the Euro-American working class womanhood voted for Trump so leave the female gender out of things. That is not a primary contradiction here. These young people are the types who smoke cannabis to excess and who's lives revolve around the types of music that were banned in nearly all the Socialist countries both things which of course feed their narcissism so they are easily conditioned. What the hell on these immigrants doing protesting the democratic will of the country that has shown them hospitality?

Interesting that you used the word "uprising"; seems like you also believe that the situation could turn into large scale civil strife.
 

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The designation of Right and Left is redundant.

I'm not convinced that Trump is Republican. He's more Republican than Democrat obviously.
If he was minded, he could actually create another party with his electoral support.

Interesting times.
 

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Most of the Euro-American working class womanhood voted for Trump so leave the female gender out of things.


These young people are the types who smoke cannabis to excess and who's lives revolve around the types of music that were banned in nearly all the Socialist countries both things which of course feed their narcissism so they are easily conditioned.
Evidence?

What the hell on these immigrants doing protesting the democratic will of the country that has shown them hospitality?
losing the plot now - and not for the first time

Interesting that you used the word "uprising"; seems like you also believe that the situation could turn into large scale civil strife.
It already has - and it is all down to one Donald J Trump
 

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This is shaping into a war with the bulk of working people, the part of the middle class who are pious and/or patriotic (or even anything resembling what their grandparents would consider normal and healthy when were their age) with those Capitalists who don't see globalism as being in their interests on one side with the Globalist elite, their flying monkeys among the middle class and/or functionaires as well as groups within the working class aided by lumpens who they have convinced that anyone who is agin Globalism is also agin them. Pound to a penny it will be the Globalist forces that shed first blood. In the present context the old Cold War dividing lines between "Left" and "Right" have to come to mean increasing next to this principle contradiction in our Western societies as you have "Leftists" and "Rightists" on both sides.

Are you saying that only conservatives can be/are patriotic?
 

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sorry REF - I am afraid you are way off base - the uprising against Trump is based on a massive response by working class people, women, young people and immigrants against the whiff of reactionary, mysoginistic, racist, homophobic etc antics of Trump.
It's odd that REF sees protesting as being a bad thing.

The people have a right to protest against anything that they don't like. That's supposed to be the American way. At least it was during the Obama years, we were told by the anti-Obama crew. Yet now it's a bad thing - it's now being called undemocratic.
 

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I think that our obsession with Trump coupled with our seeming inability to understand his motives or the motives of those who elected him will lead to lots of threads like this.
I don't think his presidency is anything other than the legacy building of a populist wealthy narcissist.
 

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This is shaping into a war with the bulk of working people, the part of the middle class who are pious and/or patriotic (or even anything resembling what their grandparents would consider normal and healthy when were their age) with those Capitalists who don't see globalism as being in their interests on one side with the Globalist elite, their flying monkeys among the middle class and/or functionaires as well as groups within the working class aided by lumpens who they have convinced that anyone who is agin Globalism is also agin them. Pound to a penny it will be the Globalist forces that shed first blood. In the present context the old Cold War dividing lines between "Left" and "Right" have to come to mean increasing next to this principle contradiction in our Western societies as you have "Leftists" and "Rightists" on both sides.
You lost my attention when I got as far as the word 'pious' and, loathe as I am to encourage you to waste even more of your life here than you obviously already do, your grasp of what's at the root of the Trump debacle is tenuous to say the least.

There's no 'hysteria', as you put it, but there is definitely a determination that such a destructive indivudual with no moral compass is allowed the briefest reign in office.

With the elevation of the neo-nazi, Steve Bannon, to the top of the NSC I've begun to wonder if we've been concentrating on the wrong puppet in Trump.

It was Bannon who got most of the credit for Trump's pre-election strategy and subsequent 'win' (minus the popular vote). To say that Trump is not particularly bright would be generous. His vocabulary is (very) limited, he can't communicate with effect on a one-to-one basis, relying instead on the relative anonymity of tweeting, and has a business acumen that has seen him bankrupted five times.

Maybe Trump is the donkey the dark and crafty Bannon used to ride to the top.
 
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sorry REF - I am afraid you are way off base - the uprising against Trump is based on a massive response by working class people, women, young people and immigrants against the whiff of reactionary, mysoginistic, racist, homophobic etc antics of Trump.
it's an uprising by brainwashed leftie liberal college types , urged on by the likes of Clinton,Obama ,Pelosi,Feinstein ,Soros etc .The liberals got their balls handed to them in the elections and are now resorting to rev up civil unrest because they won't accept the democratic process.If they are not careful they will cause civil war in the USA
 

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The designation of Right and Left is redundant.

I'm not convinced that Trump is Republican. He's more Republican than Democrat obviously.
If he was minded, he could actually create another party with his electoral support.

Interesting times.
He spent most of his life as a registered Republican. He is basically a "Mayor Daly Democrat" who would correspond to "Blue Labour" types in England. Needless to say there isn't much room for them now in the Democratic Party now that it has become the party of Neo-Liberalism and Cultural Nihilism.
 

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it's an uprising by brainwashed leftie liberal college types , urged on by the likes of Clinton,Obama ,Pelosi,Feinstein ,Soros etc .The liberals got their balls handed to them in the elections and are now resorting to rev up civil unrest because they won't accept the democratic process.If they are not careful they will cause civil war in the USA

Was it an uprising when "conservatives" got their balls handed to them in elections during the Obama years, and those conservatives took various actions against Obama? Was there a risk of civil war during those years?

What you have posted is hysteria - people in the US have the right to protest, no matter what happens as a result of the democratic process.
 

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sorry REF - I am afraid you are way off base - the uprising against Trump is based on a massive response by working class people, women, young people and immigrants against the whiff of reactionary, mysoginistic, racist, homophobic etc antics of Trump.
Eh did you miss the election ?
 

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No not at all.
So what did you mean when you said that there was a war with "the part of the middle class who are pious and/or patriotic"?

Can't someone be a middle-class patriot and still oppose Trump?
 


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