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The Army Rangers Wing thread.


NewDawn1

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This thread is about anything to do with anything Army Ranger Wing related. What are peoples understanding about their training, their operations, their purpose, as examples? Do we need them, are they useful?

I am particularly interested on how they measure up on the global scale in terms of comparing them with other special forces. It seems to me they have to multi task a bit more than most of countries special forces, so how does this affect their abilities?
 
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I'm pretty sure they don't like racists masturbating over them.

Not that I'm saying you're racist, or that you masturbate over them, just putting it out there.
 

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Yes we need them. They are very highly regarded around the world of special forces. They came second in some big international shooting competition recently.
They are the primary hostage rescue unit in the country. In fact they put that to good use in Liberia. Google search it.
There is a website dedicated to them where you can find out a lot of informtion.
Fianglach Web

Could be a good thread but I smell Walter on the Horizon already.
 

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is it good training for being a mercenary, Ted? And do the Ministry of Defence and Skittles get a commission like an employment agency if the Rangers should end up in the wrong country shooting at baddies while on technical leave from the Irish Defence Forces?

Another quare question. Given the historical connotation of Rangers v Celtic shouldn't the Irish Army Rangers be called the 'Irish Army Celts' in order to avoid chucklesome confusion in Glasgow?
 

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Yes we need them. They are very highly regarded around the world of special forces. They came second in some big international shooting competition recently.
They are the primary hostage rescue unit in the country. In fact they put that to good use in Liberia. Google search it.
There is a website dedicated to them where you can find out a lot of informtion.
Fianglach Web

Could be a good thread but I smell Walter on the Horizon already.
Oh really! Do you know what the competition was that they came second in?
 

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Geography.
 

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Yes we need them. They are very highly regarded around the world of special forces. They came second in some big international shooting competition recently.
They are the primary hostage rescue unit in the country. In fact they put that to good use in Liberia. Google search it.
There is a website dedicated to them where you can find out a lot of informtion.
Fianglach Web

Could be a good thread but I smell Walter on the Horizon already.
Interesting. I suppose like a lot of these things you query the need for them and in particular how they benefit us domestically particuarly given our costs over runs in many areas at present. I would however suspect their international reputation is a requirement of sorts in today's international military world and sure no sooner would we get rid than we would need them. I suppose we could say this for the army in general. What do we get domestically? Apologies for broadening ten discussion OP.
 

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Interesting. I suppose like a lot of these things you query the need for them and in particular how they benefit us domestically particuarly given our costs over runs in many areas at present. I would however suspect their international reputation is a requirement of sorts in today's international military world and sure no sooner would we get rid than we would need them. I suppose we could say this for the army in general. What do we get domestically? Apologies for broadening ten discussion OP.
What do we get for having the ARW domestically?

As the primary hostage rescue unit, a lot. They have both green and black roles.
This page on military.ie is good for looking at their roles.
Roles | ARW | Organisation | Army | Defence Forces
 

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I once took out two birds with the one shot.

These unfortunate spectators were not aware that the shot putt event had already begun.

I am in favour of keeping this unit as long as the best and only the best get appointed to the wing. There are no places for people whose only talent is being the son of such and such in a unit such as the rangers.
 

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What do we get for having the ARW domestically?

As the primary hostage rescue unit, a lot. They have both green and black roles.
This page on military.ie is good for looking at their roles.
Roles | ARW | Organisation | Army | Defence Forces
That's interesting. Cheers Rus. Guess its the nature of this element of the military that most likely most of their successful work isn't seen, talked about publicly or publicised for obvious reasons.
 

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Very little about them is known, and rightly so.

Many years ago, in the dead of night they simulated a storming of one of the platforms off the Cork coast, it was pretty windy and they managed to get onto the legs of the platform un- noticed, in a zodiac, climb up and take control of the control center in minutes....

Most of the crew were asleep and never heard a thing, they left by the same method.....

Our production manager onshore got the report and was none to happy, he was/is a personal friend of Dick Spring, and apparently called him to complain, Dick had no clue of the operation, but said he would enquire. Dick was Minister for foreign affairs at the time.

Thats the last anybody heard of it.

Another good friend of mine was a first class rifleman, very fit, very much respected in the army, applied to become one, "not a chance" is how e describes it.
 

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That's interesting. Cheers Rus. Guess its the nature of this element of the military that most likely most of their successful work isn't seen, talked about publicly or publicised for obvious reasons.
As you mentioned yourself, it is only when you need them, you realise the value.
The funniest argument you will ever see is when people bring up the old ''we don't need a navy...we need a coast guard''.
It's a joy to flesh out the argument that all you would inevitably end up doing is painting the ships white and paying your staff more.
 

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Was it the SAS who had to go into somewhere in Sierra Leone to rescue some of the rangers who had been taken hostage?
 

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Was it the SAS who had to go into somewhere in Sierra Leone to rescue some of the rangers who had been taken hostage?
Never heard of it, although if you can back it up, please do.

How many hostage rescues involving the ranger wing have taken place here in the last 25 years ?
I don't know. They probably wouldn't release that info. But I'll raise you this. My house has never caught fire, therefore I need no insurance....see where I is going?
 

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I heard Mary Harney was an Army Ranger. Deep, deep, deep, undercover. She was a specialist in the Chicken Wing.
 

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I heard Mary Harney was an Army Ranger. Deep, deep, deep, undercover. She was a specialist in the Chicken Wing.
The Bingo wing was also very popular at the time...
 

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