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The Budget "A disater for us" (Labour)


Mugabe

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If this is what is being said is true, then self preservation, or the ability to think of ones self is alive and well in the Labour party.

I can tell you for certain, that Labour PA's and secretaries are privately inquiring in Leinster house about redundancy entitlements. If that's the worry, then watch this space.

Martin: Labour TDs think Budget is 'a disaster for them' | BreakingNews.ie

PS: Disaster, not disater!
 
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jmcc

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But will the Stickie troughers of Labour hang on for the pensions with the Labour backbenchers walking? Is there any future for Labour?

Regards...jmcc
 

The Owl

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It's the Labour Party. You want to talk about The Workers' Party, you call them "stickies", although most people have no idea what a "stickie" is! So stop the "Divide and Rule" nonsense and let's all try and work together to get the Germans and French off our backs, the corrupt from all parties in jail, and the thieves and gamblers who destroyed our country stripped of "our" assets and jailed also.

Then let's bring democracy, Irish democracy, back to our country.
 

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Labour will go the way of PDs and Greens....but will still collect the pinsion!
 

harshreality

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If this is what is being said is true, then self preservation, or the ability to think of ones self is alive and well in the Labour party.

I can tell you for certain, that Labour PA's and secretaries are privately inquiring in Leinster house about redundancy entitlements. If that's the worry, then watch this space.

Martin: Labour TDs think Budget is 'a disaster for them' | BreakingNews.ie

PS: Disaster, not disater!
Junior party in the coalition, much smaller than FG, far fewer TDs yet they will feel the brunt of voters anger next time round. Bringing Labour on board was a bit of a master stroke by FG wouldn't you think.

And yes they already seem to be in self preservation mode.

One would think that Labour being used as a mud guard by a bigger party had never happened before.
 

lying eyes

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Labour TD,s will show what they are made of, when they have to walk the plank. The majority will stay stumb and vote with the Goverment. Pretending that they have concern for the people, but their concern for thenselves will win out on the day. Whats new........
 

im axeled

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disaster, he is quite wrong, he should have phrased it as an unmitigated disaster
 

Victor Meldrew

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Utter claptrap about this being a Disaster for labour.

Croke park is untouched.

Job done.

Constituency protected. Especially if they get in "X" legislation and Gay marriage.
 

jmcc

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It's the Labour Party. You want to talk about The Workers' Party,
Well the problem with that is that they don't work and they aren't workers. They are a bunch of political tourists that banjax any party they infiltrate. Now it is Labour's turn to have the lifeblood leeched out while it crumples into dust at the next election.

Regards...jmcc
 

Bitmap

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The only surprise is that they're surprised.

This was inevitable when Labour agreed to go into coalition with FG. Labour should have stayed on the backbenches and forced a FG/FF coalition. That would have positioned them as a leader of a left wing alternative and given them a shot at Taoiseach in the next election.

The new TDs were either too naive or too busy celebrating actually getting elected to realise that the short term interests of the senior party members - one last shot at power - was not in the long term best interests of the organisation.
 

harshreality

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Utter claptrap about this being a Disaster for labour.

Croke park is untouched.

Job done.

Constituency protected. Especially if they get in "X" legislation and Gay marriage.
You never mentioned how they may fare at the next election, which is of course far more important to political parties than anything included in your post
 

mothball

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One would have assumed that Labour backbenchers would have paid close attention to the Fianna Fáil disaster, but they continually insist on following FF backbench drones into the abyss.
Do they not realise that they're in the exact same situation? Just as the FF leadership did, the Labour top brass couldn't care less what policies they pass because they have zero intention of running for election in the future.

I guess they're just not that bright or are incredibly delusional. Likely both.
 

The Owl

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Well the problem with that is that they don't work and they aren't workers. They are a bunch of political tourists that banjax any party they infiltrate. Now it is Labour's turn to have the lifeblood leeched out while it crumples into dust at the next election.

Regards...jmcc
Yes, but that's why there was a split. Remember? How many Democratic Labour T.D.s merged with the Labour Party. Proinsias De Rossa, Pat Rabbitte, Eamon Gilmore and Liz McManus. A whole 4. Are you saying that the oldesst political party in the State could not fight off 4 outsiders, in fact, made two of them leaders? That would mean that the Labour Party is and was a shower of brainless eejits and their supporters. Is that what you are saying? Come to think of it..........
 

Crazy horse 6

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They are finished as a serious political movement in this nation thats for sure. They will hang unto the PS vote but everyone else is gone for them.
 

Victor Meldrew

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You never mentioned how they may fare at the next election, which is of course far more important to political parties than anything included in your post
If they (via the unions) can point to an intact CPA and it's sucessor in the next election, they will be fine, There will be some FF retrenchment, but that will happen in any event short of FF disbanding.
 

greengoose2

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It's the Labour Party. You want to talk about The Workers' Party, you call them "stickies", although most people have no idea what a "stickie" is! So stop the "Divide and Rule" nonsense and let's all try and work together to get the Germans and French off our backs, the corrupt from all parties in jail, and the thieves and gamblers who destroyed our country stripped of "our" assets and jailed also.

Then let's bring democracy, Irish democracy, back to our country.
There never was democracy in Ireland! We have another system called cute-hoorism. It works well for politicians, shills and deluded cheerleaders.
 

gerhard dengler

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My own guess is that Labour are the Greens version 2.

Green Party, like the Labour Party and Croke Park, got concessions on topics close to the heart too.

Where are the Greens now?

Local elections will be interesting.

Labour are politically dead men walking.
They've lost the working classes, they might retain their champagne socialist support.
 
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SeanieFitz

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FG & Lab will lose heavily at the next election. SF, Independents and FF will all gain significantly.
The only group that were almost untouched by this budget are the medium/big farmers (small farmers will be hit by the loss of the €20 per head grant for suckler cows but they weren't FG supporters anyway) and FG will retain the rancher support but hemorrhage support from the self employed, small business owners and working mothers. Big Phil and the ultimate beard and GP's friend Dr Reilly will cost FG a lot of votes.
Never mind what will come out in the wash during the legal proceedings initiated by the unsuccessful bidders for the mobile licence, squeaky bum time for O'Briens friends in FG!
 
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