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The business of making wars

Lúidín

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Britain is now the second biggest arms dealer in the world | The Independent

War crime tribunals, unfortunately, don't extend to those who supply the weapons and facilitate the criminals, probably because the international court is the child of the countries who profit most from the manufacture and supply of the weapons. British industry is now the second-biggest facilitator of mass killings in the world, supplying the heinous Saudi regime and other despots. Well done UK!

Giving guns to criminals and children is morally repugnant but giving weapons to mass killers is good business and is rewarded by knighthoods.
 


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Crazy isn't it, and most of the arms going to the Middle East.

No, we don't want the people displaced by wars there ... feck yis, we'll go Brexit then. The rest of ye can have the responsibility for them and put up the emigrants. No wonder they left the club.
 

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It's an entirely amoral business, dominated by a handful of countries who profit hugely from conflict. Disgusting, really.
 

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Crazy isn't it, and most of the arms going to the Middle East.

No, we don't want the people displaced by wars there ... feck yis, we'll go Brexit then. The rest of ye can have the responsibility for them and put up the emigrants. No wonder they left the club.
The real pain in the arse about the Brits is that they convince themselves they're on the side of right all the time...

If the EU implodes (as it might) the Brits will smugly turn around and claim they led the way... whereas the truth is that if the EU implodes it's been a long time coming and the seeds were sown years back when Britain was a member. Brexit will simply be seen as a significant trigger point along the road...

Similarly with the €uro... they smugly claim they were on the right side of that while ignoring the fact if they'd engaged properly and Sterling had been included the €uro would have been a very different currency... and it probably would have been implemented a lot better than it was.

Basically the Brits aren't team players.

They engage at arms length while whingeing incessantly... presumably so they can f*** off when things get difficult and when everything goes t!ts up while claiming how great they are and how right they were all along...

If the Brits had been founding members of the EU they'd be the last to leave... you can be sure of that. The EU would be the best thing ever in their eyes...

As they weren't founding members however... imo they've always had a chip on their shoulder about Johnny foreigner having started it in the first place...

So yeah... let the UK feck off and sell their arms to whoever's willing to pay while they smugly claim they remain on the right side of everything all the time... blah blah blah...
 
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The apologists will be along shortly to tackle this thread of blatant anglophobia.
 

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Great war-mongering and money laundering Britain.
Twas always thus, sgt bilko will be along soon to call yis conspiraloons in 3, 2, 1...
 

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It's an entirely amoral business, dominated by a handful of countries who profit hugely from conflict. Disgusting, really.
Raging anti British sentiment from our resident Provo apologist.
 

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Raging anti British sentiment from our resident Provo apologist.
I used to give the British people the benefit of the doubt when it came to the more questionable behaviour of the British 'establishment'...

I seperated them from the actions of their 'establishment' in my head... knowing how feckin' arrogant and aloof and unaccountable 'establishments' can be etc.

Brexit has changed all that though... a 'popular' vote by the people and all that...

I'll be a lot more circumspect when it comes to Britain 'going forward'.
 

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I used to give the British people the benefit of the doubt when it came to the more questionable behaviour of the British 'establishment'...

I gave them a break and separated them from the actions of the 'establishment' in my head...

Brexit has changed all that though... a 'popular' vote by the people and all that...

I'll be a lot more circumspect when it comes to Britain 'going forward'.


Don't be so hard, they're easily manipulated, Thatcherism destroyed British manufacturing, and with it went the towns and villages outside of the London commuter belt but the establishment with their media apparatus had people blaming johnny foreigner.


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Inheritance tax, and how the Dukes of Westminster avoid it on their £9bn fortune

Then there's the whole ignorance of yet pride in the history of the British empire, the shenanigans of British troops in the various countries seeking their independence being kept secret for reasons of "national security".

National security alright, if the English ever woke up to wants been done in their name the elite wouldn't be long for the guillotine.
 

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Anyway Malcolm will be a long shortly to illustrate how the opium war was really a harmless trade war and there really was no British Empire and if there ever was it ran at a deficit!
 

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Anyway Malcolm will be a long shortly to illustrate how the opium war was really a harmless trade war and there really was no British Empire and if there ever was it ran at a deficit!
This is not just about Britain. They are second, the US is first. Russia and China aren't far behind. It's a disgusting trade, no matter who is doing it.
 

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This is not just about Britain. They are second, the US is first. Russia and China aren't far behind. It's a disgusting trade, no matter who is doing it.
Two of them are "open, liberal, democracies" the other two are totalitarian, despotic regimes.

Tony Blair should be locked up but is held up as some sort of moral authority on who is suitable for leading their Labour party.


But we'll preform mental gymnastics to carry on the pretence that "we are the good guys".
 

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Don't be so hard, they're easily manipulated, Thatcherism destroyed British manufacturing, and with it went the towns and villages outside of the London commuter belt but the establishment with their media apparatus had people blaming johnny foreigner.


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Inheritance tax, and how the Dukes of Westminster avoid it on their £9bn fortune

Then there's the whole ignorance of yet pride in the history of the British empire, the shenanigans of British troops in the various countries seeking their independence being kept secret for reasons of "national security".

National security alright, if the English ever woke up to wants been done in their name the elite wouldn't be long for the guillotine.
Thatcherism simply put the final nail in the coffin of British manufacturing. It was destroyed in the 60's and 70's. Some of this damage was self-inflicted, some of it was inflicted by the nascent "activist investor" ( of junk bonds men as they were at the time) movement and undervaluing of sustainable industry relative to short term gain in anglophone financial markets.
Thatcher put it out of its misery rather pay for expensive treatment! reaganism on the other hand imported the worst excesses from the UK in this regard....


On the Duke of Westminster , while no man is responsible for what he inherits in life, it is sadly depressing in the extreme that 1000 years later William the Conquerors huntsman's family is still top of the pile having done littl e except guard their inheritance and re-invest a % of the return in the intervening period.......1000 years.........it HAS to be wrong......however the greasy till fumblers with their investment apartment in Blanchardstown and the subsistence farmers dependent on EU checks scream blue murder if inheritance tax is ever broached as an opportunity for wealth redistribution.......even though a $ inherited buys as much as a $ earned with the sweat of one's brow.
 

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The world of arms dealing is murky ...and that needs to change

Arming certain people is the right thing to do, arming others is not

But if you attack all arms dealing equally ...that is likely to reinforce the persistence of said murk

cyp
 

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Britain is now the second biggest arms dealer in the world | The Independent

War crime tribunals, unfortunately, don't extend to those who supply the weapons and facilitate the criminals, probably because the international court is the child of the countries who profit most from the manufacture and supply of the weapons. British industry is now the second-biggest facilitator of mass killings in the world, supplying the heinous Saudi regime and other despots. Well done UK!

Giving guns to criminals and children is morally repugnant but giving weapons to mass killers is good business and is rewarded by knighthoods.
Vote 4 ILLary. Keep Britain from becomming number 1.
 

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The real pain in the arse about the Brits is that they convince themselves they're on the side of right all the time...

If the EU implodes (as it might) the Brits will smugly turn around and claim they led the way... whereas the truth is that if the EU implodes it's been a long time coming and the seeds were sown years back when Britain was a member. Brexit will simply be seen as a significant trigger point along the road...

Similarly with the €uro... they smugly claim they were on the right side of that while ignoring the fact if they'd engaged properly and Sterling had been included the €uro would have been a very different currency... and it probably would have been implemented a lot better than it was.

Basically the Brits aren't team players.

They engage at arms length while whingeing incessantly... presumably so they can f*** off when things get difficult and when everything goes t!ts up while claiming how great they are and how right they were all along...

If the Brits had been founding members of the EU they'd be the last to leave... you can be sure of that. The EU would be the best thing ever in their eyes...

As they weren't founding members however... imo they've always had a chip on their shoulder about Johnny foreigner having started it in the first place...

So yeah... let the UK feck off and sell their arms to whoever's willing to pay while they smugly claim they remain on the right side of everything all the time... blah blah blah...
Most of the above was on De Gaulle's list when he opposed their admission. Rightly so as history transpired.
 


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