The constitutional fates of Scotland and Northern Ireland are now linked in a way they have never been before.

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The constitutional fates of Scotland and Northern Ireland are now linked in a way they have never been before. In Northern Ireland, this election campaign has seen the emergence of pro-remain voting alliances – albeit still coloured by traditional green and orange allegiances – and the DUP looks likely to lose at least one of its 10 seats as a result.

But for the constitutional future of Northern Ireland the election results in Scotland are much more important, particularly if Nicola Sturgeon wins an emphatic mandate for a second referendum. Though little discussed in the 2014 referendum – when I worked as a Treasury civil servant on the “no” side – the implications of a successful independence vote in Scotland are enormous on the other side of the Straits of Moyle, the narrow stretch between the Mull of Kintyre and the north Antrim coast. For it is hard to see how Northern Ireland’s union with Britain can survive the end of Scotland’s.


The DUP do not appear to have any sort of plan to deal with the issues that will arise if Brexit does occur?
 


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The sooner These Two go and leave England and Wales in Peace the Better .

Hanging around like dead fish heads in the pantry !
 

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The constitutional fates of Scotland and Northern Ireland are now linked in a way they have never been before. In Northern Ireland, this election campaign has seen the emergence of pro-remain voting alliances – albeit still coloured by traditional green and orange allegiances – and the DUP looks likely to lose at least one of its 10 seats as a result.

But for the constitutional future of Northern Ireland the election results in Scotland are much more important, particularly if Nicola Sturgeon wins an emphatic mandate for a second referendum. Though little discussed in the 2014 referendum – when I worked as a Treasury civil servant on the “no” side – the implications of a successful independence vote in Scotland are enormous on the other side of the Straits of Moyle, the narrow stretch between the Mull of Kintyre and the north Antrim coast. For it is hard to see how Northern Ireland’s union with Britain can survive the end of Scotland’s.


The DUP do not appear to have any sort of plan to deal with the issues that will arise if Brexit does occur?
I think there's more sea between England and Gibraltar than there is between any part of Ireland and England, so it's not an insurmountable option.

It would cause a bit of disgust to the DUPers, though, cos they could no longer look east or northeast across the sea and see the "mainland" of the UK.
 

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The sooner These Two go and leave England and Wales in Peace the Better .

Hanging around like dead fish heads in the pantry !
Why don't you go and mind your own business and leave the United Kingdom to the people of the United Kingdom.

Southern Irish should keep their nose out.
 

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Why don't you go and mind your own business and leave the United Kingdom to the people of the United Kingdom.

Southern Irish should keep their nose out.
Ye are just a bloody nuisance to Wales and England . What have they ever done to deserve Ye Lot .

Leave them alone , Ye are stinking the place out !
 

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Why don't you go and mind your own business and leave the United Kingdom to the people of the United Kingdom.

Southern Irish should keep their nose out.
Ireland is the country you foreigners are planted in.
 

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Ch 4 plus 1 are doing two bits on the reunification of Ireland - in a few minutes and at 8.30.

Best if the poor Unionists don't watch it - not good news for the foreigners.
 

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Ch 4 plus 1 are doing two bits on the reunification of Ireland - in a few minutes and at 8.30.

Best if the poor Unionists don't watch it - not good news for the foreigners.
Watching British TV again.

What's wrong with TG4?
 

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The constitutional fates of Scotland and Northern Ireland are now linked in a way they have never been before. In Northern Ireland, this election campaign has seen the emergence of pro-remain voting alliances – albeit still coloured by traditional green and orange allegiances – and the DUP looks likely to lose at least one of its 10 seats as a result.

But for the constitutional future of Northern Ireland the election results in Scotland are much more important, particularly if Nicola Sturgeon wins an emphatic mandate for a second referendum. Though little discussed in the 2014 referendum – when I worked as a Treasury civil servant on the “no” side – the implications of a successful independence vote in Scotland are enormous on the other side of the Straits of Moyle, the narrow stretch between the Mull of Kintyre and the north Antrim coast. For it is hard to see how Northern Ireland’s union with Britain can survive the end of Scotland’s.


The DUP do not appear to have any sort of plan to deal with the issues that will arise if Brexit does occur?
The DUP fell over themselves to gain influence with Theresa May, totally forgetting the interests of the voters of Northern Ireland.

Now they are about to lose seats, and it looks like Boris Johnson will not need them anymore. And in the new Neoliberal Brexit Britain, everything will be monetised. The monetary value of Northern Ireland to England is less than 0.

It is a horrible irony for the DUP that in trying to strengthen the Union, they have fatally wounded it.

I remember writing in 2017 that the DUP should be looking over their shoulder, not at Edward Carson, but at John Redmond. It is the fate of John Redmond they should be looking at.
 

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Watching British TV again.

What's wrong with TG4?
I derive great pleasure watching British News when the topic is Brexit and the break-up of the phoney UK.

The message is that the real British in Britain want rid of you Unionist troublemakers.
 

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Why don't you go and mind your own business and leave the United Kingdom to the people of the United Kingdom.

Southern Irish should keep their nose out.
FYI

"The Good Friday Agreement (GFA) or Belfast Agreement (Irish: Comhaontú Aoine an Chéasta or Comhaontú Bhéal Feirste; Ulster-Scots: Guid Friday Greeance or Bilfawst Greeance)[1] was a major political development in the Northern Ireland peace process of the 1990s. Northern Ireland's present devolved system of government is based on the agreement. The agreement also created a number of institutions between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, and between the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom."
 

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FYI

"The Good Friday Agreement (GFA) or Belfast Agreement (Irish: Comhaontú Aoine an Chéasta or Comhaontú Bhéal Feirste; Ulster-Scots: Guid Friday Greeance or Bilfawst Greeance)[1] was a major political development in the Northern Ireland peace process of the 1990s. Northern Ireland's present devolved system of government is based on the agreement. The agreement also created a number of institutions between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, and between the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom."
Expect a reply from the nomad - something along the lines of - oh please big bad world, don't confuse me with facts, my mind's already made up.
 

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FYI

"The Good Friday Agreement (GFA) or Belfast Agreement (Irish: Comhaontú Aoine an Chéasta or Comhaontú Bhéal Feirste; Ulster-Scots: Guid Friday Greeance or Bilfawst Greeance)[1] was a major political development in the Northern Ireland peace process of the 1990s. Northern Ireland's present devolved system of government is based on the agreement. The agreement also created a number of institutions between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, and between the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom."
And?
 

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Expect a reply from the nomad - something along the lines of - oh please big bad world, don't confuse me with facts, my mind's already made up.
When the British hear your accent they assume you are there to rob or defraud them.
 

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When the British hear your accent they assume you are there to rob or defraud them.
yeah - that's because the Brits have a problem with distinguishing the different Irish county accents,
& of course they're most used to the DUP,
so it's no wonder that "they assume you are there to rob or defraud them."
 

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The UK and Irish governments, the Northern Ireland parties and the European Commission have all agreed that the withdrawal process should not be allowed to undermine the Good Friday Agreement.
`Ireland and Brexit


With the good people of nortern Ireland still being EU citizens after Brexit of course they have a lot to say how their citizens will be treated by the process.
 


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