The curious case of the lenient sentences

Covenanter

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In recent years it has become apparent that our judiciary have been extremely lenient when handing out sentences to republican terrorists. I would say prison sentences, but in fact they have been so lenient that planting a viable anti personnel bomb, in an attempt to murder police officers does not automatically ensure a custodial sentence. The Newsletter have done a spot of research into three cases, for the sake of bandwith I will just paste one on here with the remainder at this link. Trio of recent cases show feeble punishments for dissidents - Belfast Newsletter

CASE ONE:

Conal Corbett (20 and of Flax Street in the Ardoyne area of Belfast) was given a suspended sentence on August 15, 2016, for being part of a bomb plot.

The sentence was handed down by judge Gordon Kerr at Belfast Crown Court.

The case centred on what police described as a “fairly substantial” bomb on an advertising board at Brompton Park, on the edge of Ardoyne.

It was remote controlled, and the PSNI believe it was intended to blow up officers.

It failed to detonate when triggered, and the alarm was then raised after two priests were contacted by phone.

When tracing the telephones used in the plot, police inquiries led them to Corbett.

He had purchased a phone and top-up vouchers.

When searching his house, police found items including instructions on how to assemble automatic weapons, autographs of dissident prisoners, a crossbow, and a balaclava.

Corbett was interviewed 12 times, but gave no reply to any question.

He later pleaded guilty to four charges: two counts of possessing items for terrorist-related offences (the phone and top-up vouchers), making records of information for terrorism, and possessing documents useful for terrorism.

His sentence was for 18 months, suspended for two years. By that stage he had already spent seven months on remand.

Judge Kerr said he was taking into account Corbett’s age at the time of the crime (18), and the time spent on remand.

What was the maximum sentence?

In specific legal terms, Corbett’s above crimes fall under the Terrorism Act 2000.

They were, respectively, two counts under section 57(1), one under 58(1)(a), and one under 58(1)(b).

Section 57(1) carries a maximum term of 15 years.

Section 58(1)(a)can bring a sentence of 10 years, a fine, or both.

Section 58(1)(b) can also bring a sentence of 10 years, a fine, or both.

However, under guidelines laid out by the Department of Justice in 2008, at least half of these terms must be spent on licence rather than in custody.

After taking that into account, if Corbett had been handed consecutive (as opposed to concurrent) terms for all his crimes, a judge could have imposed maximum jail time of 25 years.
Of course this does not include the recent case where a suspect in the murder of David Black simply disappeared after having his bail conditions reduced to such a ridiculous level that the police did not notice him missing for a month.

Since we are being generous with Inquiries at the minute perhaps it is time that there was an independent inquiry into this shambles and the idiots involved were held to account.
 


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In days of old a Provo getting a sentence like that would have turned up later on a border road with a bin bag over his head and with his bowels removed and replaced with semtex.
 

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Another thread designed to divert attention from the RHI scandal, the DUPs woeful incompetence, Arlene's arrogance, and the consequent collapse of the assembly?

Interesting. Them f***in terrorist taigs are at it again for no reason...
 

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Barra the ra legal eagle doing his bit to keep these guys on the street to show them that big brother ra can pull strings for them.
Keeps the locals from abusing Gerry Kelly or giving them an excuse,all part of the republican mosaic.
 

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Today we've had Marion Price, the Krankies and now legal advice from Covenanter QC to try and divert.

It's hilarious.
 

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Why s it that when someone posts a thread now about Republican terrorists, it is automtically to divert attention away from the RHI saga.
Yet when you go to that thread, it is often averted away to actions of the RA or others.

Cov,
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Lockthemupforlife.com
 

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Appeasement ....

It'll be interesting to see if SF's Ulaidh president continues to push for Political Policing for the dissidents .... or will she break with the Adams and McGuinness tradition that all are equal but some are more equal than others?

Can the cosy deal between the dissidents and provos continue? Omerta for favours?
 

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Prisoner release and untouchable racketeers was part of the GFA written and unwritten, but it makes no sense to give current terrorists lenient sentences. Moi is shacked that our upstanding peaceful law abiding tea egg muppets aren't bothered...
 

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Complaints about lenient sentences ring hollow when it comes from a section of society that think soldiers should literally get away with murder.

We have calls for an inquiry into the decision to prosecute soldiers for murder. The people making this call seem to forget that an inquiry has already been carried out and the decision to prosecute taken accordingly by the PPS.
 

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Calls for prosecution from Provo death squad supporters ring hollow...
 

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It is just another aspect of our glorious little country. Unionists keep telling us that everything is great, but of course we all know that it isn't really. And It won't be until we collectively sort our shít out.
 

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It is just another aspect of our glorious little country. Unionists keep telling us that everything is great, but of course we all know that it isn't really. And It won't be until we collectively sort our shít out.
Translation: Themuns...
 

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It is just another aspect of our glorious little country. Unionists keep telling us that everything is great, but of course we all know that it isn't really. And It won't be until we collectively sort our shít out.


Are you kidding Dancer, even if the dinasours were voted out of representation it would still be a tall order to sort the 'sh1t' these anti equality parasites created.
 

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Barra the ra legal eagle doing his bit to keep these guys on the street to show them that big brother ra can pull strings for them.
Keeps the locals from abusing Gerry Kelly or giving them an excuse,all part of the republican mosaic.
It's a huge scandal and only an independent inquiry will suffice to sort it out.
 

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It's a huge scandal and only an independent inquiry will suffice to sort it out.


Mange, I read a post of yours this morning when I returned home from holiday and I could have sworn you said thet there were too many inquiries..........have you as usual done the age ol flip flop like you always done on DC?
 

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Its about time this sentencing farce is sorted out, and maybe once and for all we can end the scourge of Republican terrorism.
How nationalists demand the release of Republican terrorists is hypocritical, but what else can we expect.
The Newsletter has been highlighting these oh so lenient sentences recently and it is affecting moral in the PSNI.
 

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You'd swear this was some sort of Republican plot the way you lot are banging on.

Sentencing: Who's soft? - BBC News

They say that around half of criminals convicted of sex offences, violence and burglaries in England and Wales in 2012 were not sent to prison.
The problem is the law/judiciary. Grow up.
 

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Its about time this sentencing farce is sorted out, and maybe once and for all we can end the scourge of Republican terrorism.
How nationalists demand the release of Republican terrorists is hypocritical, but what else can we expect.
The Newsletter has been highlighting these oh so lenient sentences recently and it is affecting moral in the PSNI.
There is a two tier justice system at work in this country at the minute. The sentences being handed out to dissident republicans are one part of it, but the other part is the fact that pro Adams republicans are free from prosecution. Meanwhile 75 year old Chelsea Pensioners are being hounded.

It is a huge scandal and it will have to be brought to a head.
 


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