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The destruction of rural life - does anyone care?


tipp revolution

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Michael Healy Rae spoke fervently on Brendan O COnnors show about how life is being taken out of rural communities. Likewise on The Week in Politics valid points were made - if rural people are paying household charges don't they deserve services in return?

Guards gone, post offices gone, shops gone, pubs gone, road surfaces gone - what is to be done?
 

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Michael Healy Rae spoke fervently on Brendan O COnnors show about how life is being taken out of rural communities. Likewise on The Week in Politics valid points were made - if rural people are paying household charges don't they deserve services in return?

Guards gone, post offices gone, shops gone, pubs gone, road surfaces gone - what is to be done?
Surely they deserve the services their particular taxes (including household charges) will sustain? If you mean that they deserve services over and above that, subsidised by the idiots in the cities who should keep their noses out of rural affairs, I'd have to ask why?
 

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Communities come together and organise ways to protect their vulnerable members, develop community spirit, you know - look out for each other, local co-ops etc.
 

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What is "rural life"?

I don't think there is any greater urbanisation now than in the past. Any analysis of where taxes are spent will show rural areas as still subsidised which is ok. If more people lived in villages or homelands in rural areas sevices would be more sustainable.
 

tipp revolution

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Communities come together and organise ways to protect their vulnerable members, develop community spirit, you know - look out for each other, local co-ops etc.
So can we keep the property taxes and rates to contribute to such organisations

I wholeheartedly agree with you by the way Im just mad at being treated like a second class citizen
 

tipp revolution

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Surely they deserve the services their particular taxes (including household charges) will sustain? If you mean that they deserve services over and above that, subsidised by the idiots in the cities who should keep their noses out of rural affairs, I'd have to ask why?
The way I see it I'm an idiot subsidising your services - how far away is your nearest guard if someone should try to murder you in your bed? (not me now, Im angry but not manically violent)
 

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Michael Healy Rae spoke fervently on Brendan O COnnors show about how life is being taken out of rural communities. Likewise on The Week in Politics valid points were made - if rural people are paying household charges don't they deserve services in return?

Guards gone, post offices gone, shops gone, pubs gone, road surfaces gone - what is to be done?
The rising fuel prices is the main thing that puts me off living rural.
Post offices will be phased out in cities soon due to less mail and more use on internet.
Shops gone can't be pinned on the Govt.
Country folk have abandoned their local shops to instead shop in Lidl, Aldi or wherever.
Pubs closing? This is happening in urban areas just as much.
 

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The way I see it I'm an idiot subsidising your services - how far away is your nearest guard if someone should try to murder you in your bed? (not me now, Im angry but not manically violent)
If someone was trying to murder you in your bed, a guard would have to be very close to stop them.
 

tipp revolution

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The rising fuel prices is the main thing that puts me off living rural.
Post offices will be phased out in cities soon due to less mail and more use on internet.
Shops gone can't be pinned on the Govt.
Country folk have abandoned their local shops to instead shop in Lidl, Aldi or wherever.
Pubs closing? This is happening in urban areas just as much.
Good man Truth.ie the voice of reason- you are right, of course. But a village with no gathering place is a sad spot - like after a match or a funeral removal etc. This is leading to isolation, which is a huge issue nationwide, but especially in rural communities where people dont have the opportunity to meet with others in their daily routine like farmers, less mobile people living alone etc. Two or three pints in the local pub was a great outlet for those kind of people, and I think these are the people that Danny Healy Rae was talking about. Anyone who grew up in the country knows the score.
 

tipp revolution

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If someone was trying to murder you in your bed, a guard would have to be very close to stop them.
Well , my funeral would be arranged as my nearest guard is 25 miles away and should there be a bit of life left in the old body the nearest A & E is 45 miles away being Limerick Regional, a quiet little spot. Now, ibis or davidoff, (doesnt matter Im trying to make a point here) man up and tell me what your situation is iro nearest guard and A & E
 

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Well , my funeral would be arranged as my nearest guard is 25 miles away and should there be a bit of life left in the old body the nearest A & E is 45 miles away being Limerick Regional, a quiet little spot. Now, ibis or davidoff, (doesnt matter Im trying to make a point here) man up and tell me what your situation is iro nearest guard and A & E
I'm sympathetic over the likes of post office closures. They provide important services.

The guard thing is hugely overblown. In the one-in-a-million chance that you dialled 999 in the middle of the night, the local guard would almost cetainly be in bed too.

As for A&E, I live in a large commuter town and would still have to travel 30km to get to hospital.

Rural Ireland has its share of issues, but no one is going out of his way to exacerbate them.
 

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Small villages and rural towns have witnessed shops, hotels, B&Bs, pubs, factories, courts and garda stations close and eventually railway stations, schools, post offices, bank branches and churches will shut their doors. Parks, playgrounds and other local amenities aren't being looked after, empty buildings are becoming vandalized and derelict, roads are becoming pot holed, young people are emigrating and elderly people are miles from services and at the mercy of criminals. Villages and small towns are dying on their feet.
Large towns are left with empty silent industrial estates, decaying half built housing estates and young people unemployed with limited prospects except the dole or emigration. People with jobs have experienced a steep fall in their living standards and are simply existing.
 

tipp revolution

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Is there not a hospital in your commuter town then
 

tipp revolution

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Small rural towns have witnessed shops, hotels, B&Bs, pubs, factories, courts and garda stations close and eventually railway stations, schools, post offices, bank branches and churches will shut their doors. Parks, playgrounds and other local amenities aren't being looked after, empty buildings are becoming vandalized and derelict, roads are becoming pot holed, young people are emigrating and elderly people are miles from services and at the mercy of criminals. Villages and small towns are dying on their feet.
Huge and v sad
 

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if people are living in rural areas expect to get very limited services, urban taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize financially unviable services in rural areas, if rural folk want to have services, they should have to pay local taxes to subsidize these services.
 

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Well , my funeral would be arranged as my nearest guard is 25 miles away and should there be a bit of life left in the old body the nearest A & E is 45 miles away being Limerick Regional, a quiet little spot. Now, ibis or davidoff, (doesnt matter Im trying to make a point here) man up and tell me what your situation is iro nearest guard and A & E
Well, I'm Dublin central, so mine would be pretty close, I'd think, although they're probably wrestling with some drunken yahoo or druggie right now. That's the upside and downside of living in a city.

But you're going to tell me you're subsidising me, and I'm going to tell you you're talking out your arse, because you're not - the whole of rural Ireland is subsidised by the cities. I don't mind that, and I don't want to see rural life disappear (I spent a good chunk of the Eighties in rural Cavan, and I still don't want to see rural life disappear), but I do mind rural people saying they're subsidising Dubliners, because that's complete horsecock.
 
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What is 'rural life' these days anyway? From my experience (I'm from Donegal) the majority of modern rural Ireland is people living in hideous one-off houses who are totally car dependent; commuting into the nearest big urban area to work, socialise, shop etc and really don't become that involved in their rural areas.
 
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