The DUP will have a veto over future Irish language standards in the North, Jeffrey Donaldson MP has claimed.

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The DUP should have stayed / or pretend to have no impact on the Irish language. This move may keep their voters happy today but can only be a source of friction with nationalism going forward. It will also keep them from embracing a new political stance which they will need to keep who have traditionally voted for them moving to Alliance or some other party.
 


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The First and Deputy First Minister have to agree on the IL commissioners new powers. Which is where the so called veto comes from.

Is it a foregone conclusion that the DUP have the FM slot? At 27 a piece and SDLP two more MLAs than the UUP, I’d have though there was a nationalist majority in the Assembly governing parties.
 

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The First and Deputy First Minister have to agree on the IL commissioners new powers. Which is where the so called veto comes from.

Is it a foregone conclusion that the DUP have the FM slot? At 27 a piece and SDLP two more MLAs than the UUP, I’d have though there was a nationalist majority in the Assembly governing parties.

The issue is now what they can do but how they are marketing the deal. A line of :

"we can stop them ones getting what they want"is no longer acceptable by a large section of the population.


What will be the dup slogan for the next election?

We can stop people getting language rights ??? Not very British.
 

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This is not too good. That said, let us hope that S.F and SDLP can find ways around this potential problem.
Slán.
 

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This is not too good. That said, let us hope that S.F and SDLP can find ways around this potential problem.
Slán.
The DUP has signed up to the deal with all its bells. If they not veto the main obstacle to getting an agreement, the hand of the British government will soon find itself around their necks. Also...the RHI scandal is soon to grow deeper. Beware the ides of March.
 

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This is not too good. That said, let us hope that S.F and SDLP can find ways around this potential problem.
Slán.

If the DUP want a united Ireland then they should keep blocking things like an Irish language act.
 

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The legislation makes reference to the commissioner implementing “best practice”. That’s a legal term and under best practice as seen in Wales and Scotland - the language must be visible to the public.

Should the DUP veto signage (they will), we’re heading straight to the Courts.

The question arises what will SF do should Arlene Foster discriminate against minorities while she ignores judicial review findings against her ?

Judging by their decision to roll over and continue to bar nationalists from the justice ministry, I suspect they’ll do nothing.
 

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That will be the danger of hastily concluded agreements. The DUP showed with Mrs May that they will push any advantage they have to it's limit, and far past the point of being reasonable.

Their hostility to the Irish language is quite extraordinary- and targeting a growing Irish Language movement was a major feature of the last DUP administration.
 

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What " standards " ? Do they mean that dreadful Belfast accent ?
 

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What " standards " ? Do they mean that dreadful Belfast accent ?

There's a separate ulster dialect as it is, so are they suggesting that it should be drowned by the official standard?

With its new fangled Vs and Zs?
 

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You’d have to be especially stupid to a) believe anything Donaldson says or b) get upset by anything he says. It’s like being annoyed by Alex Jones. He’s a professional lunatic.

Read the terms. Listen to the adults in the room, the Irish and UK govts. Then reach a view.
 

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You’d have to be especially stupid to a) believe anything Donaldson says or b) get upset by anything he says. It’s like being annoyed by Alex Jones. He’s a professional lunatic.

Read the terms. Listen to the adults in the room, the Irish and UK govts. Then reach a view.
Sir Jeffrey was a guest of honour at the F.G convention last year. He got applauded when he suggested Republic rejoin the Commonwealth.
Charlie Flanagan led the applause. Flanagan is Minister for "Justice" in Republic.
 

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Sir Jeffrey was a guest of honour at the F.G convention last year. He got applauded when he suggested Republic rejoin the Commonwealth.
Charlie Flanagan led the applause. Flanagan is Minister for "Justice" in Republic.
How do you know he did?
 

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SF may be the biggest party in the North after the next Assembly election.
They Might. On the other hand, they might not.

Stormont rule has nothing to offer the oppressed Catholic people of Northern Ireland. Nothing, except Prod tyranny. Stormont rule was a factory of grievances which caused the Troubles. Of more that 300 members of the IRA killed in Northern Ireland, only 6 were from Eire. The others were victims of Prod tyranny.
 

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They Might. On the other hand, they might not.

Stormont rule has nothing to offer the oppressed Catholic people of Northern Ireland. Nothing, except Prod tyranny. Stormont rule was a factory of grievances which caused the Troubles. Of more that 300 members of the IRA killed in Northern Ireland, only 6 were from Eire. The others were victims of Prod tyranny.
The problem now is that everything could return to "normal".

Why would people vote for a reunified Ireland if so-called NI is working, and everyone is content within the political entity called the UK???

I don't see the logic from an Irish point of view, of trying to make the occupation of part of Ireland work for the enemy.
 

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The problem now is that everything could return to "normal".

Why would people vote for a reunified Ireland if so-called NI is working, and everyone is content within the political entity called the UK???

I don't see the logic from an Irish point of view, of trying to make the occupation of part of Ireland work for the enemy.
SF are close to being the biggest party in NI. And it makes the party looks better in the Republic if they are doing ok and running or co-running the NI institutions.
 

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You’d have to be especially stupid to a) believe anything Donaldson says or b) get upset by anything he says. It’s like being annoyed by Alex Jones. He’s a professional lunatic.

Read the terms. Listen to the adults in the room, the Irish and UK govts. Then reach a view.
Wilson is the one who is really as mad as a March Hare.

Sammy was on BBC 6 counties live election results around 11PM, lying that if Britain can't get a trade deal, the Irish Frontstop will be scrapped. Election 2019: Northern Ireland - Part One

I posted this clip on the 17th Oct - short and sweet from the horses mouth.

The new frontstop will never be replaced - whether the UK make a free trade deal with the EU or not.

 


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