The ex-IRA men: ‘United Ireland? It’s all guff’

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The ex-IRA men:

Thought there might be enough meat on this piece to chew over.


These are among the surprising views expressed by a number of former hard men of republicanism, interviewed by The Irish Times for their unique insights into the thorny issues of Brexit and Northern Ireland’s future.
Three of the four are convicted killers or have served time in relation to a killing. The fourth was imprisoned for offences that included attempted murder. They were active in some of the bloodiest campaigns of the Troubles, and for three of them much of that activity took place along the Border.
Neither republican sees a great prospect of a united Ireland after Brexit.
“It is going to be very embarrassing for a lot of Irish political parties that almost pretended that partition was going. But the reality is that it is going to be more and more obvious,” Lynagh says. “The embarrassment is that a customs man might arrive and show that there is a Border.”
Both share left-wing views and believe that the interests of Border counties are not being well served by the European Union. McKearney argues that cross-Border economics has operated in a beggar-thy-neighbour way: Newry has over the years benefited at the expense of Dundalk, and vice versa, depending on currency fluctuations.
It's about time someone talked to the actual hard men. The interview was soft on Gerry McGeough though.
 


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Why post stuff that's behind a ************************************g pay wall?
 

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The ex-IRA men:

Thought there might be enough meat on this piece to chew over.






It's about time someone talked to the actual hard men. The interview was soft on Gerry McGeough though.
Why? At this stage its all about the money and how does the UK government strike a deal that takes into account the needs of the people of Northern Ireland.

Its popcorn time with a particularly scary horror movie I wonder if the twist will be Miss May will save northern Ireland at the expense of the London stock market?
 

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Why? At this stage its all about the money and how does the UK government strike a deal that takes into account the needs of the people of Northern Ireland.

Its popcorn time with a particularly scary horror movie I wonder if the twist will be Miss May will save northern Ireland at the expense of the London stock market?
The Brits will always put more money into NI,Wales and Scotland. Plus the North of England.

They get the most from the tax revenue.

It's basics economics 101. Huge economies of scale because London and the Home Counties are so densely populated.

It's a total myth that the South of England gets everything. Started up by a few drunks somewhere no doubt.

Public spending per head in Scotland revealed - The Scotsman

Spending on services such as economic affairs, the NHS and schooling – but excluding defence – is £10,151 for the average Scot. This compares with about £8,787 across the UK.


Northern Ireland has the highest levels of spending, at £10,876 per head; in Wales, the figure is £9,707, while England is the lowest on £8,528, according to data from the Country and Regional Analysis.

Health service spending in Scotland, at £2,115 per head, is the highest in the UK. The economic affairs budget, at £992, is also the highest in the UK.
 

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Newsflash: sectarian murdering scumbags tell it as it is...
 

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Why? At this stage its all about the money and how does the UK government strike a deal that takes into account the needs of the people of Northern Ireland.

Its popcorn time with a particularly scary horror movie I wonder if the twist will be Miss May will save northern Ireland at the expense of the London stock market?
Save Northern Ireland at the expense of the London Stock market.....jeez i don't think even your most Ardent Unionist would expect Westminster /Tories / Any British government to do that.......
 

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I have only read the snippets highlighted in the OP! However, it is a reflection of reality, though when the United Ireland doesn't happen in the next few years post Brexit, none of our political parties will be embarrassed!
There is a far greater prospect of Scotland leaving The UK, than of Ireland being united, vastly more in fact!
A UK of England, Wales and Nordieland would be a right laugh though!
 

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A lot of Provos who saw active service in the past must be and indeed AFAIK, well pissed at the young whipper snappers coming through to claim big gravy train political posts!
It's a bit like footballers of the past pretending that they don't envy the outrageous schillings their modern day equivalents get, mind you some of those modern footballers can't even kick a ball!:rolleyes::cool:
 
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If a UI vote does materialise, one question will come to the fore in the minds of ordinary Joes; what might this mean for my family and my wallet? Answers to all likely scenarios will have to be detailed and plausible.
 

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LOL, IT, FF and FG decide that "former hard men" rather than the politicians and electorates have the final word.... :)
 

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Look what was the conflict all about? The IRA wanted a 32 county sovereign Republic!

So fast forward on, now SF are administering British rule in the 6 counties, they have flip flopped and are now cheer leaders for the EU and are sucking at it's tits, what a fuking joke.

We are not even allowed to decide our own water policy and laws, 32 County Sovereign Republic, do me a big fuking favour.
 

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A lot of Provos who saw active service in the past must be and indeed AFAIK, well pissed at the young whipper snappers coming through to claim big gravy train political posts!
It's a bit like footballers of the past pretending that they don't envy the outrageous schillings their modern day equivalents get, mind you so of those modern footballers can't even kick a ball!:rolleyes::cool:
look at the way the first blanketman was treated,
 

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Glad to see reality settling in to these guys,yes,a ROI in a federal union with GB makes very good sense.
It would be mutually benefit to all parts of these islands.

EU is in its death throes.
 

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