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The Fake Left and the Rise of the Far Right

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What's really striking is that the so called Far Right parties across Europe are making progress by calling for the things that the Left should be calling for - but are failing to do. The Left has more or less given up on economic issues, and now contents itself with pushing for abortion, gay marriage, open borders for immigrants and other such issues. The supposed Far Right are giving Working Class people answers to why they can't find jobs, and if the do, the pay and conditions are so miserable that the job really isn't worth having. And these are the same answers that Marx and Engels gave in the 19th Century. Could be be that Marx and Engels were of the Far Right?

I think genuine Marxists have to admit that Hitler could never have risen to power in Germany if the German Communist Party had been doing what it should have been doing. Hitler could never have risen to power in China or Russia or Vietnam or Cuba. Why? Because there the Communists were the Nationalists. Anti-Nationalism is a mental disorder of the European Left. There are reasons for this, of course, since Nationalism in the imperialist countries was co-opted by empire. But, is that really an excuse? When your enemies claim the loyalty of the people by co-opting their national pride, does it make sense to just give up on national pride? To say that that's your enemy's intellectual property? Of course not. A fighting Communist party would take Nationalism back, and put it to work for Marxism. I'm afraid that if the European Left continues as it is, the working class can only see it as an ideology of the idle rich. They will no choice but to believe that only the Far Right cares for them, and fights their cause. This is happening already - and in very great numbers.

Lenin called Left Communism an infantile disorder. How right he was.

It's very easy to say to people - Look at that African bus driver, why has an African a job driving a bus in Dublin, while you, an Irish person, have no job? Such a question will find easy acceptance, and an easy response. That's the strength of the Right. It's much more difficult to draw people's attention to the process that forced that African to leave his homeland, where he was known and loved, and move to a cold and gloomy place like Ireland, where he is regarded as alien and suspect. That's hard work, and the Left really doesn't like hard work, so the Left just gives up and resorts to silly slogans that even they themselves don't believe - that's if they are cornered for a response. They usually prefer to just pretend the issue doesn't exist, and concentrate on more trendy subjects like gay marriage.

The European Left cheerled the destruction of Libya. It supported the terrorists in Syria - right up to the point when they saw the beheadings of hundreds of people. If the European Left was a serious force, it would have immediately asked itself what has gone wrong. Why are we supporting racist lynch mobs in Libya and sectarian head hunters in Syria? But no. No such questioning has happened. The European Left seems utterly brain dead. To question itself has been designated as heresy. Is is any wonder that the Working Class is looking elsewhere for leadership?
 


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Once you get past the clichéd language and outmoded concepts the nut has a sort of a actual core of a sane commentary for once. The left has gone off the rails towards a sort of Marxist utopia of protest and social activism. The far right however gets no mention.

Farism itself is the problem. Extremes always take us places we should not go. The daft quasi religious nationalism (mostly built on falsehoods and distortions in such as Hungary and Poland, example: Putin did not actually bring down the crate that fell on Smolensk despite the current myth) is a major threat to human rights, the rule of law and individual freedom. Oddly only 19% of Poles even voted for this outfit.

The lefts misguided attempts to promote its version of freedom is deeply flawed but the right is as we speak busy reducing freedoms and reducing the excellent Polish constitution to ash. Disgraceful.

Luckily, we have the EU to save us from these assorted criminals and stand up for our rights as individuals, as taxpayers and democrats. So I wouldn't worry unduly.

The OP remains mentally unstable and unable to engage in an actual facts based debate of any sort and having started out as an opinion piece will within a page reduce the thread to a personal insult of a sort familiar to junior infants when their teacher steps out.

Full of weird and bizarre ideas, unable to sustain any of them in the face of a logic assault.
 
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Well, this sank without trace thanks to the babbling OP.
 

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Well, this sank without trace thanks to the babbling OP.
Still weird though...the OP does include the word "abortion"....maybe he should put in in bold or something?
 

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Still weird though...the OP does include the word "abortion"....maybe he should put in in bold or something?
He got most hobby horse repetitive drivel he concentrates on is but it lacked a certain focus on fundamentalist Christianity which I felt took from the overall impression. That of a mentally deranged fool fighting to be heard in a world which ignores him.

The addition of few topical subjects such as abortion might serve to attract a few passing loons I agree. He may be overreaching in thinking his actual ideas can exist in isolation of headline grabbing.

I was still surprised at the way he managed to ignore the appeal of the far right to the uneducated sheeple which I would have expected him to find appalling as an educated intellectual.
 

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He got most hobby horse repetitive drivel he concentrates on is but it lacked a certain focus on fundamentalist Christianity which I felt took from the overall impression. That of a mentally deranged fool fighting to be heard in a world which ignores him.

The addition of few topical subjects such as abortion might serve to attract a few passing loons I agree. He may be overreaching in thinking his actual ideas can exist in isolation of headline grabbing.

I was still surprised at the way he managed to ignore the appeal of the far right to the uneducated sheeple which I would have expected him to find appalling as an educated intellectual.
So, basically..he needs some pictures? Got ya.
 

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We just need Mitsui and Carlos Danger to show up, and we will have a full compliment of mindless trolls.
 

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Oh look, he's back from the offlicense. Get anything nice?
 

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Being a Troll I have it on ignore

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Course you have as I kept pointing out your fascist tendencies and continual hate speech for which you are well known. I have no problem with Nazi's such as you as Dangle attempting to ignore reality. Its all you really do.

Two likes from the same poster? How excellent!
 
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The 'left' in Ireland is nothing more than a protest movement essentially advocating fairer capitalism.
 

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The 'left' in Ireland is nothing more than a protest movement essentially advocating fairer capitalism.
ehh, not really, I would say they are pension grabbing , crony , opportunists waiting for a crash to get in, they don't offer any credible economic policies and court the liberal vote, of course in opposition like all, they are superb but in Government they are told what to do to get their hands on the pensions and appointments.
 

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So, in addressing the OP, what is a socialist economic model?
 

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The glarignly obvious difference in how the far left and far right speak to the working class is that the former pin the blame on those who are actually responsible for exploitation and inequality (a very wealthy elite who sustain capitalist systems) whereas the latter try to pin everything on brown people.
 


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