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"The Fall" - Crime Series on RTE


Magror14

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I have watched the first two episodes of this series. Wondering were there any views. I generally don't like these kinds of programs with all the associated graphic violence and corpses (which I just don't look at). The acting, production, attention to detail and the Belfast setting, though, make this utterly compelling viewing. The portrayal in tonight's episode of the person finding her sister's body and the policewoman's regret at not preventing the murder were very well done. Its not perfect but kudos to all concerned.
 


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Ironic that RTE is calling this home grown drama considering they had nothing to do with it, instead it being a BBC NI production.
 

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I know it is a BBC production. Its a high quality production period.
 

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I know it is a BBC production. Its a high quality production period.
Only seen the first episode - deliberately didn't watch it on RTE tonight as I'm Sky+-ing the BBC (i.e. ad-free) showing.

What I took from watching episode 1 was: high production values, plays with genre conventions, has what are shaping up to be some excellect performances, and definitely some outside-the-box writing.

At the end of that first episode I found myself thinking "where the hell is this going?"... and that's so rare in a tv cop show (and a "serial killer" one at that) that I have high hopes for this one.

On the other hand, I've been disappointed before...
 

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It`s decent, certainly a level above the usual British or Irish tv crime drama.
 

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What's that the Indo said today about it.... North Iron is one country with more real serial killers than the TV programs been produced about the matter.
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Only seen the first episode - deliberately didn't watch it on RTE tonight as I'm Sky+-ing the BBC (i.e. ad-free) showing.

What I took from watching episode 1 was: high production values, plays with genre conventions, has what are shaping up to be some excellect performances, and definitely some outside-the-box writing.

At the end of that first episode I found myself thinking "where the hell is this going?"... and that's so rare in a tv cop show (and a "serial killer" one at that) that I have high hopes for this one.

On the other hand, I've been disappointed before...
The second episode will not dissappoint. Looks like the continental take on the police drama (The Killing, Spiral 4 etc) has started to lift the Beeb's game.

I agree it is hard to see where the show is going. The murderer father is both normal and grossly disgusting at the same time. That's a bit too complicated for your Daily Mail reader.
 

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I'm with Mitsui above. BBC for taping the series then pick a wet, cold and miserable summers evening and watch it.

Re the home grown aspect of the production, is that more mystical 'green shoots' ?
 

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I'm with Mitsui above. BBC for taping the series then pick a wet, cold and miserable summers evening and watch it.

Re the home grown aspect of the production, is that more mystical 'green shoots' ?
No, I like a few TV show a week that I look forward to. Also psychologically, on Sunday evenings with Monday to follow its nice to have a show to like. I never watched Love/Hate as I was put off by what seemed to be the glorification of crime(probably should have given it a chance). Anyway it was on a Sunday evening too. Its a good slot.
 

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No, I like a few TV show a week that I look forward to. Also psychologically, on Sunday evenings with Monday to follow its nice to have a show to like. I never watched Love/Hate as I was put off by what seemed to be the glorification of crime(probably should have given it a chance). Anyway it was on a Sunday evening too. Its a good slot.
Love/Hate isn't all that great TBH. Best of a bad lot. Everyone kept telling me how fantastic it was so I downloaded the first three series and sat and watched them one week when I was off work sick. Kept waiting for it to take off...
 

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The female detectives "English" accent sounds like she's channelling the late Margaret Thatcher at times.
One or two too many beards makes the upper echelons of the PSNI look like there's been an Amish takeover.
Implausibly overly sexualised baby sitter gal ...
More worryingly whilst enjoying the programme, I do find that for such a " right on" ie subliminally feminist/pc value system on display throughout....there is a kind of pretty sick sexualisation of the violence, the programme is clearly aimed at the female prob 30+ age range, and there's plenty of athletic chaps baring their torsos all over the place...I wonder would the story be quite so appealing to the target market if the the murderer was a pot bellied fella with a dodgy haircut ? Seems to me whilst scrupulously and often tediously pc there's plenty of titillation for the yummy mummys watching, and this sexualisation of violence is a worrying trend that veers close to the pornographic at times.
 

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The female detectives "English" accent sounds like she's channelling the late Margaret Thatcher at times.
One or two too many beards makes the upper echelons of the PSNI look like there's been an Amish takeover.
Implausibly overly sexualised baby sitter gal ...
More worryingly whilst enjoying the programme, I do find that for such a " right on" ie subliminally feminist/pc value system on display throughout....there is a kind of pretty sick sexualisation of the violence, the programme is clearly aimed at the female prob 30+ age range, and there's plenty of athletic chaps baring their torsos all over the place...I wonder would the story be quite so appealing to the target market if the the murderer was a pot bellied fella with a dodgy haircut ? Seems to me whilst scrupulously and often tediously pc there's plenty of titillation for the yummy mummys watching, and this sexualisation of violence is a worrying trend that veers close to the pornographic at times.
That's pretty good analysis. I just looked away for much of the portrayal of the murder "afters", tbh. Way too disgusting but I didn't want to condemn the series on that basis. Seem like a lot of CSI type series these days like to have corpses very much on display but maybe this one is a bridge too far. As far as pornography goes you don't get many drama series these days without a measure of pornography. This is television after all.
 

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Just thinking again about this series and generally about an aspect of modern police dramas that I don't like. Its voyeurism in relation to death. In the past we respected the dead. In this and other modern police dramas the body of the murder victim is displayed and viewed. Are there really that many viewers out there who are attracted to this kind of thing? Its a poor reflection on us all if there are.
 

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The bit where the morgue worker was working the hand joints was fairly gruesome. I liked the programme though.
 

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I'm not sure what to make of Gillian Anderson. I never watched The X Files but I've seen her in other British made series' and she always seems to have the same long face on her.
 

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The bit where the morgue worker was working the hand joints was fairly gruesome. I liked the programme though.
Agree,I found some scenes a little bit too graphic,overall a good quality production.Gillian Anderson is as usual quite delectable.I also spotted the beautiful UK actress Archie Panjabi who is a regular in "The Good Wife" in the cast.
 

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Agree,I found some scenes a little bit too graphic,overall a good quality production.Gillian Anderson is as usual quite delectable.I also spotted the beautiful UK actress Archie Panjabi who is a regular in "The Good Wife" in the cast.
Yeah, I thought she was good, her accent as well. Some things didn't fit and made it look a little gauche. Like the southern accent of some of the PSNI officers. But a good thriller, I think. Will he kill again? Will he harm his daughter, or the baby-sitter? Good atmospheric thriller, I thought.
 

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Agree,I found some scenes a little bit too graphic,overall a good quality production.Gillian Anderson is as usual quite delectable.I also spotted the beautiful UK actress Archie Panjabi who is a regular in "The Good Wife" in the cast.
Is she the pathologist? I was wondering would she end up in a later episode being a victim.
 

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I'm not sure what to make of Gillian Anderson. I never watched The X Files but I've seen her in other British made series' and she always seems to have the same long face on her.
Loved her in the X-Files. I'd love to see them finish off the franchise with one last film. Anderson herself is American but grew up in Britain as a child, hence her ability to put on a posh English accent.
 

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