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Nuaman

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The GAA is a fantastic organisation , but not sure how this club versus County player is going to end up. There is enough tension between County and Club at present.
 

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The GAA is a fantastic organisation , but not sure how this club versus County player is going to end up. There is enough tension between County and Club at present.
It's not a club versus county thing. Many county players are supporting the CPA too.
County players are affected by fixtures too. Especially those sitting on benches all summer.
It's something that faces all County players nearing retirement too. They have to think about staying with the County to get to play football or retire and wait til Oct or Nov the following year before they see Championship football again.
 

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The GAA is a fantastic organisation , but not sure how this club versus County player is going to end up. There is enough tension between County and Club at present.
We need to be careful how we discuss this. It's not a Club V County problem. This is a trick to put guilt in the Clubs and the Counties and take it away from where it lays, in Croke Park among the suits.
The financial decisions being made and the division of the product for the purpose of sales is where the conflict comes from.
 

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Also let the record show that the six counties and Donegal destroyed Football.
 
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Also let the record show that the six counties and Donegal destroyed Football.
Yep, they did, by dominating the nineties and 2000's. Dublin and Kerry not winning = death of football. Let the record show you are a gobshyte.
 

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Great article in Saturday's Times criticising the GAA for building too many white elephant stadia. "Time to end this white-elephant obsession - by ewan mackenna"

The article's content being the soon-to-reopen, re-vamped O'Keeffe Park in Cork.

It's behind a paywall but here are some extracts:

"On time and on budget, Páirc Uí Chaoimh even sounds ideal. But look deeper. Listen harder. When it comes to such grand projects, it has to be about so much more.

In terms of cost, did you get bang for your buck?
In terms of size, did you get a place that’s not too big as to be regularly half-empty, and not too small so as to be inadequate?
In terms of facilities, is it fit for purpose and for the future?
In terms of place, is it actually needed when looking at how often it will be used?

This is where the problems begin, for whip off the fur coat here and there’s not much underneath."

"Beside modern stadia, the new “Park” is a little old school .... what’s essentially been done is an impressive new stand has gone up, it’s former roof appears stuck on the other side, while there remain a couple of uncovered terraces in a place where it rains 204 days a year. ................ At 45,000 the place is too big for club and for most intercounty football, and it will be used too little for major hurling games in a province of behemoths and rotation. As always with GAA building, it’s quantity over quality. Such money could have gone to the many other glaring needs in the county — the Cork footballers were recently training in a warehouse they did up themselves."

And so on.

Other gems:-

"... reports in recent days regarding the newest health and safety hold-ups to Casement Park, a facility that is eventually due to cost around €90 million but has resulted in €10 million wasted on paperwork, confusion and wrangling, as it is smack in the middle of a residential area with little way in or out."

"In MacHale Park, there is a monstrosity of a stand with a roof held up by sight-obscuring pillars and facing the prevailing wind that came in at €16 million; meanwhile, it’s considered all-seater because of 1960s concrete slabs elsewhere, a set-up which Christy Cooney, the former president, described as being “Tá sé class”.
 

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Great article in Saturday's Times criticising the GAA for building too many white elephant stadia. "Time to end this white-elephant obsession - by ewan mackenna"

The article's content being the soon-to-reopen, re-vamped O'Keeffe Park in Cork.

It's behind a paywall but here are some extracts:

"On time and on budget, Páirc Uí Chaoimh even sounds ideal. But look deeper. Listen harder. When it comes to such grand projects, it has to be about so much more.

In terms of cost, did you get bang for your buck?
In terms of size, did you get a place that’s not too big as to be regularly half-empty, and not too small so as to be inadequate?
In terms of facilities, is it fit for purpose and for the future?
In terms of place, is it actually needed when looking at how often it will be used?

This is where the problems begin, for whip off the fur coat here and there’s not much underneath."

"Beside modern stadia, the new “Park” is a little old school .... what’s essentially been done is an impressive new stand has gone up, it’s former roof appears stuck on the other side, while there remain a couple of uncovered terraces in a place where it rains 204 days a year. ................ At 45,000 the place is too big for club and for most intercounty football, and it will be used too little for major hurling games in a province of behemoths and rotation. As always with GAA building, it’s quantity over quality. Such money could have gone to the many other glaring needs in the county — the Cork footballers were recently training in a warehouse they did up themselves."

And so on.

Other gems:-

"... reports in recent days regarding the newest health and safety hold-ups to Casement Park, a facility that is eventually due to cost around €90 million but has resulted in €10 million wasted on paperwork, confusion and wrangling, as it is smack in the middle of a residential area with little way in or out."

"In MacHale Park, there is a monstrosity of a stand with a roof held up by sight-obscuring pillars and facing the prevailing wind that came in at €16 million; meanwhile, it’s considered all-seater because of 1960s concrete slabs elsewhere, a set-up which Christy Cooney, the former president, described as being “Tá sé class”.
Old stadium had to be replaced, GAA right to do it in style while they were at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYG9tzUknxc

Interesting point that someone raised with me some time back. Will the county board apply to have the place registered as a venue for civil marriage ? Plenty of money to be made.
 

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Old stadium had to be replaced, GAA right to do it in style while they were at it.
Except that they didn't!

That said, as a rugbyman, I'm grateful to Frankeen Murphy and his cronies for having built a decent venue for RWC 2023 pool games.
 

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The GAA is the unthinking game to watch, lots of action and hurly burly, soccer the game to play if you have the skills but not the brains or discipline for a proper team game and Rugby is the game for the thinking man, both to play or to watch.

I played & watch all 3 so I know this, no arguments please.

And in their own way there's a place for all 3.
Since when is thee GAA itself a sport.

Rugby a thinking man's game, what utter tosh. All the natural skill is gone from rugby, ie Blanco and Co. , The players today are just pumped up drugs freaks, and that's just the schoolboys.
 

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Rugby a thinking man's game, what utter tosh. All the natural skill is gone from rugby, ie Blanco and Co. , The players today are just pumped up drugs freaks, and that's just the schoolboys.

Where do you stand on ladies' (or womens') rugby?

And what are your views on the Highfield Hooker?
 

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Yes but that's different. Rich people drink responsibly.
I suppose s couple of bottles of red a night is responsible!
 

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Why?

And think of the numbers. That's 90% of your players. And do you still ban people who watch the established games?

Hurling and Gaelic are not established!
 

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That's Dublin and that's all sports.

Outside Dublin is the issue.
Where I originally come from, the two local rugby and soccer clubs have merged. Do you think the decline in rural populations only affects the GAA?
 

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Except that they didn't!

That said, as a rugbyman, I'm grateful to Frankeen Murphy and his cronies for having built a decent venue for RWC 2023 pool games.
Stadium very much fit for purpose for GAA fans, or daycent as you said.
 

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Since when is thee GAA itself a sport.

Rugby a thinking man's game, what utter tosh. All the natural skill is gone from rugby, ie Blanco and Co. , The players today are just pumped up drugs freaks, and that's just the schoolboys.
Rugby, at times, can be awful to watch, nearly as bad as Donegal playing gaelic football.
 

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