The Glorious Union...

between the bridges

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Even with the straw clutching two separate polls have found no evidence that Brexit has caused a radical shift in public opinion which would make a referendum on a united Ireland remotely winnable....

Ipsos MORI poll for academics found that just 21.1% of people in Northern Ireland would vote for Irish unity after the UK leaves the EU.

The poll, commissioned by academics at Queen’s University Belfast for a major piece of research examining how Brexit is shaping political opinion in Northern Ireland, found that not even half of Catholics would vote for a united Ireland, with just 42.6% of Catholics favouring that option – although a large percentage, 26%, were undecided.

And a second poll, commissioned by think tank Policy Exchange ahead of a major conference in London today examining the future of the Union, found that a clear majority of people across the UK are in favour of the Union in its current form – with 68% support in England, 52% in Scotland, 66% in Wales and 59% in Northern Ireland.

The ICM poll also found that a majority of people in the UK say their support for the Union has remained constant or has risen in recent years – 78% in England, 60% in Scotland, 69% in Wales, 70% in Northern Ireland.


https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/new-poll-finds-just-21-support-for-a-united-ireland-despite-fears-about-post-brexit-irish-border/

Tick Tock moi aras...
 


between the bridges

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And tis all the mexicants fault...

There was, however, scepticism among many Catholics about how realistic a united Ireland is at this point.

One female Catholic voter aged over 60 said that most people in the Republic “don’t want anything to do with the North really because they don’t want the bother that comes with it and the troubles that comes with it”.

Another female Catholic voter aged between 18 and 29 said: “I’ve spent a lot of time down south talking to other people, and they just don’t care about the same things people in the North would care about.

“Like, politics wise they are nearly blind to everything that goes on up here.
 

between the bridges

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Oophs better make that 3 polls...If three polls out today are to be believed, pressure for an early border poll will recede and unionists fearing the worst, will heave sighs of relief For nationalists, while much hinges on the economic consequences of Brexit, majority opinion among them in favour of unity hasn’t solidified,


On a third poll the Irish Times reports



Some 28 per cent of Catholics would vote for a united Ireland if the UK changed its mind and remained in the EU while 53 per cent of Catholics would vote for a united Ireland if there was a hard exit in which the UK left the customs union and single market.

https://sluggerotoole.com/2018/05/21/border-poll-recedes-as-polls-show-nationalist-support-for-unity-hinges-on-brexit-outcome/

Now whaaats 53% of 50+1? lmfoa...
 

CastleRay

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How many years have we seen “the Brits don’t want you” on here as a statement of fact that will result in the utopian state iNats clamour for?

:lol:
 

Dame_Enda

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I have repeatedly warned against this hype from Nationalist politicians on a UI, having observed the history of the Troubles and the polls in NI. I am a southern supporter of UI (particularly as controlling the ports would help reduce illegal immigration) but also a hardnosed realist.

Both SF and the SNP have tried to exploit the uncertainty surrounding Brexit, and local opposition to Brexit from a majority of both NI and Scottish voters - to push for new referendums but are meeting majority opposition to this.
 
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Even with the straw clutching two separate polls have found no evidence that Brexit has caused a radical shift in public opinion which would make a referendum on a united Ireland remotely winnable....

Ipsos MORI poll for academics found that just 21.1% of people in Northern Ireland would vote for Irish unity after the UK leaves the EU.

The poll, commissioned by academics at Queen’s University Belfast for a major piece of research examining how Brexit is shaping political opinion in Northern Ireland, found that not even half of Catholics would vote for a united Ireland, with just 42.6% of Catholics favouring that option – although a large percentage, 26%, were undecided.

And a second poll, commissioned by think tank Policy Exchange ahead of a major conference in London today examining the future of the Union, found that a clear majority of people across the UK are in favour of the Union in its current form – with 68% support in England, 52% in Scotland, 66% in Wales and 59% in Northern Ireland.

The ICM poll also found that a majority of people in the UK say their support for the Union has remained constant or has risen in recent years – 78% in England, 60% in Scotland, 69% in Wales, 70% in Northern Ireland.


https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/new-poll-finds-just-21-support-for-a-united-ireland-despite-fears-about-post-brexit-irish-border/

Tick Tock moi aras...
You should post this on the Brexit thread Bridges, because there's a bunch of europhiles over there dribbling and drooling about a UI, all based on their delusion that others share their love affair with the EU.
 

Newrybhoy

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Oh dear.

Peak UI euphoria and in a worst case scenario only half of the Catholic population would support it.

Obviously the working Catholics of NI are not well represented on p.ie.

But I think we knew that already.
 

Oliver Cromwell McIvor

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'Unionism must reclaim rights agenda' says Arlene Foster Such hypocrisy from Snarlene - Unionism doesn't give a dam about rights expect their own narrow bigoted ones
Rights for whom? Homosexuals?
 

vivabrigada

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Are we all up for a border poll, then, I am?
 

Oliver Cromwell McIvor

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Are we all up for a border poll, then, I am?
What makes you think any Ulster Protestants will vote to join the Free State given that they've legalised Sodomy via marriage?
 

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devonish

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Are we all up for a border poll, then, I am?
To what purpose? you can't point to any evidence that would indicate support for a UI being anywhere close to 40% never mind your fantasy of 50% + 1.
If there was a significant change for example, as a result of a Hard Brexit then I think it would be useful to have that new position ratified or rejected by referendum. As it stands with less than 30% support for a UI what's the purpose?
 

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The thing is that I have never come across a Tea Egg outside of Glenshane4 who doesn't want a united Ireland both online and in the real world even though a solid case can made that at this stage in the game such is against there interest. Certainly if one of them is out for tribal revenge they would be much better off Northern Ireland remaining in the United Kingdom. This is a thing- if a united Ireland is defeated in a Border Poll in a decent fashion a lot of Tea Eggs may well decide that rather than focusing on getting rid of the border they would be better off focusing on Tribal revenge.
 


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