The Greens will enter a coalition but not with FF/FG.

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So, the Green Party at their recent national convention announced that are liable to enter a coalition in the next Dail but not with "Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael or any party whose policies and values conflict with those of the Green Party."

What exactly does this mean?

A) That the Greens will enter a confidence and supply agreement with FF or FG but not enter government with them.
B) That the Greens would seek to enter government with an ABFF/FG coalition.
C) That another convention would be held after the GE and pave the way for a coalition with FF or FG and the anti FF/FG line is just an electoral soundbite.

The Greens have gone into coalition government with FF and the remnants of the PDs before and this resulted in then leader Trevor Sargent TD resigning his position as leader and then becoming a minister in Ahern's government.
 


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My reading is that they are open to all parties, including FF and FG???
 

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So, the Green Party at their recent national convention announced that are liable to enter a coalition in the next Dail but not with "Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael or any party whose policies and values conflict with those of the Green Party."

What exactly does this mean?

A) That the Greens will enter a confidence and supply agreement with FF or FG but not enter government with them.
B) That the Greens would seek to enter government with an ABFF/FG coalition.
C) That another convention would be held after the GE and pave the way for a coalition with FF or FG and the anti FF/FG line is just an electoral soundbite.

The Greens have gone into coalition government with FF and the remnants of the PDs before and this resulted in then leader Trevor Sargent TD resigning his position as leader and then becoming a minister in Ahern's government.
This is the sort of pompous codswollop that self-styled 'progressive' micro-parties come out with before elections. The Shinners were past masters of it, forever declaring that they would only go into coalition if they were the senior party, at a time when they were going to be the Next Big Thing. That went well.

Once the results are in, the arithmetic gets done and the tune changes. Suddenly the 'national interest' and the necessity for 'stability' is deemed to supersede party 'values'.

The idea that the Greens of all crowds would refuse to go into coalition with FF or FG is downright hilarious, given that had to be practically dragged out of Merrion St in 2011 after 4 years of the most unGreen, destructive govt this country has ever seen. They are visibly itching to get back into bed with FF and their actions on various councils since May is evidence of that.
 
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This is the sort of pompous codswollop that self-styled 'progressive' micro-parties come out with before elections. The Shinners were past masters of it, forever declaring that they would only go into coalition if they were the senior party, at a time when they were going to be the Next Big Thing. That went well.

Once the results are in, the arithmetic gets done and the tune changes. Suddenly the 'national interest' and the necessity for 'stability' is deemed to supersede party 'values'.

The idea that the Greens of all crowds would refuse to go into coalition with FF or FG is downright hilarious, given that had to be practically dragged out of Merrion St in 2011 after 4 years of the most unGreen, destructive govt this country has ever seen. They are visibly itching to get back into bed with them and their actions on various councils since May is evidence of that.
Maybe they're hoping that the Labour Party, social democrats, and assorted looney lefties will get enough seats to form a government with them.

Let's hope the greens leave a better country behind them than they did the last time.
 

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So, the Green Party at their recent national convention announced that are liable to enter a coalition in the next Dail but not with "Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael or any party whose policies and values conflict with those of the Green Party."

What exactly does this mean?

A) That the Greens will enter a confidence and supply agreement with FF or FG but not enter government with them.
B) That the Greens would seek to enter government with an ABFF/FG coalition.
C) That another convention would be held after the GE and pave the way for a coalition with FF or FG and the anti FF/FG line is just an electoral soundbite.

The Greens have gone into coalition government with FF and the remnants of the PDs before and this resulted in then leader Trevor Sargent TD resigning his position as leader and then becoming a minister in Ahern's government.
It means you misread the story.

"Delegates at the party's annual convention in Dublin overwhelmingly rejected a motion against entering a coalition with Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael or any party whose policies and values conflict with those of the Green Party."

The motion against going into coalition with FG, FF, etc was overwhelmingly defeated.
 

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It means you misread the story.

"Delegates at the party's annual convention in Dublin overwhelmingly rejected a motion against entering a coalition with Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael or any party whose policies and values conflict with those of the Green Party."

The motion against going into coalition with FG, FF, etc was overwhelmingly defeated.
That's a relief, after the catastrophe of their policies last time out.
 

Baron von Biffo

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That's a relief, after the catastrophe of their policies last time out.
I can't recall any Green policy being implemented last time.

As I recall many of their supporters were miffed at them for caving in on Rossport, Shannon, Tara, and the incinerator.

To be fair to them, at least they never let Paul Gogarty near a ministry.
 

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No left of centre party should ever enter coalition with a bigger party on the right.
Labour sold their souls in 2011, following their best ever showing, and the price of that betrayal of their voters was virtual annihilation.
 


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