The Healy-Rae thing has claimed that nuclear testing in Pacific Ocean caused the hole in the ozone layer!

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You do realise, this contention;



Is contrary to, this;
In what way?

I pointed out that HR's comments had some foundation in science, I didn't say he was entirely correct and pointed to another area in which he was in fact getting mixed up. Are you sure you understand what is actually being said?
 

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In what way?

I pointed out that HR's comments had some foundation in science, I didn't say he was entirely correct and pointed to another area in which he was in fact getting mixed up. Are you sure you understand what is actually being said?
The crux of his statement;

"nuclear testing in the Pacific Ocean 50 years ago actually caused the serious damage to the Ozone layer"

This statement, explicitly attributes the cause of ozone depletion to one series of acts.

Where in your link is that supported?

Where does it advocate nuclear testing caused 'serious damage'?

Where does it advocate, nuclear testing was even a significant contributor to ozone depletion?

Where does it even imply, it had more than 'an effect'?

Critically....where in the recommendations, does it reference, or recommend anything about altering/reducing/ceasing nuclear testing?
 

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The crux of his statement;

"nuclear testing in the Pacific Ocean 50 years ago actually caused the serious damage to the Ozone layer"

This statement, explicitly attributes the cause of ozone depletion to one series of acts.

Where in your link is that supported?

Where does it advocate nuclear testing caused 'serious damage'?

Where does it advocate, nuclear testing was even a significant contributor to ozone depletion?

Where does it even imply, it had more than 'an effect'?

Critically....where in the recommendations, does it reference, or recommend anything about altering/reducing/ceasing nuclear testing?
Now you are simply splitting hairs to save face.

I said his statement is not without foundation and pointed to two sources which suggest that nuclear explosions do indeed have an effect on the ozone layer. Now stop inventing bollux just because you have dug a hole for yourself.
 

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DHR is just the type of man I would look to for environmental expertise given the amount of hot air that comes out of his mouth.
 

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No. You posted a poor link, that doesn't support your/his position.
Both links support the idea that nuclear explosions damage the ozone layer. Where did I say I supported his statement entirely? That's just in your head.
 

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Both links support the idea that nuclear explosions damage the ozone layer. Where did I say I supported his statement entirely? That's just in your head.
The "/" indicates "or"...nevertheless, I apologise.

The fact remains, he went FAR beyond simply saying nuclear explosions damage the ozone layer.
 

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Well Healy Rae has called it right about the lies peddled by the warmists concerning climate.

He is probably right on this too.
 

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The "/" indicates "or"...nevertheless, I apologise.

The fact remains, he went FAR beyond simply saying nuclear explosions damage the ozone layer.
Well yes, I don't think he has a clear an understanding of what he was actually saying himself TBH.
 

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Well yes, I don't think he has a clear an understanding of what he was actually saying himself TBH.
Sorry, just havin' a grumpy day. Normally, I'd just stick to fart-jokes.........(he'd be OK with the environmental effects of farts, I reckon')
 

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Sorry, just havin' a grumpy day. Normally, I'd just stick to fart-jokes.........(he'd be OK with the environmental effects of farts, I reckon')
Aye, I get grumpy myself when I think that people are sneering at those they consider inferior without actually stopping to think about the situation. No doubt somebody will be along to point out a complex but I really won't give two hoots.
 

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You do realise, this contention;



Is contrary to, this;
"The rapid release of energy in a nuclear explosion forms NOx from O2 and Nitrogen. The gases are carried into the stratosphere by the intense convection associated with the explosion. NOx destroys ozone, so atmospheric bomb tests should have had an effect. Most atmospheric testing was conducted 1945-1963, but some nations (e.g. France, China) continued until 1980s. The calculated effect is a temporary 3% reduction of ozone, but this value is within natural variations, and monitoring methods were crude at that time. The sunspot cycle should have resulted in an ozone peak in early 1960s, but this did not happen, suggesting that testing did have an effect. "

The funny thing about the media is that most of them, the great majority, are just simple Arts graduates with no great understanding of Science. When they are talking or writing about Science, or Technology or Economics or any other field that requires specialist knowledge and training, they are not experts and should not be considered such. Unfortunately, non-specialist posters often have similar backgrounds and grab on to the nearest simplistic explanation even when it is wrong. And as for that stuff about Critical Thinking, it does not replace knowledge.
 
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He'll get a LOAD of coverage for this now!
So he's happy.
All the Denziens of Brubaker & other D2 trendy flat white purveying establishments will be arching their eyebrows in an all so knowing way as he guns the landcruiser past blasting out some fella playing accordian music.

He'll be laughing all the way to Limerick.
 

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All the Denziens of Brubaker & other D2 trendy flat white purveying establishments will be arching their eyebrows in an all so knowing way as he guns the landcruiser past blasting out some fella playing accordian music.

He'll be laughing all the way to Limerick.
Yeah at all the fools who vote for him.
 


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