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The Heave Against Cowen


jmcc

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Given the latest RedC poll (FF at 18% +/- 3%), is there a Moses-like figure who can lead FF to the promised land of government seats after the next GE?

Will it be Lenihan?

Will it be Martin?

Will it be Hannafin?

When will Clara be getting its village idiot back - Tuesday, the end of next week, November 25th?

Regards...jmcc
 


ONQ

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Let's see if the state can survive until the next general election.

Given the continuing terrible state of the finances and the contraction in the economy in Q3 this year its doubtful if we'll last another year unless the fools who are in government come up with some useful stimulus package and generate some jobs and some downward pressure on the cost of living produces results.
 

hammer

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It is time for THE COUGH to stand up and be counted.

18% support Fianna FAIL
82% are against :)
Sinn Fein will soon pass them out !!!
 

Tomas Mor

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Given perilous state of country, I think he should be allowed frame budget, and go to country in new year. Things are too serious for normal politics, thanks to him and his ilk.,
 

darkhorse

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Given the latest RedC poll (FF at 18% +/- 3%), is there a Moses-like figure who can lead FF to the promised land of government seats after the next GE?

Will it be Lenihan?

Will it be Martin?

Will it be Hannafin?

When will Clara be getting its village idiot back - Tuesday, the end of next week, November 25th?

Regards...jmcc
I dont see how a new leader could make any difference to either the public or to the Party
Nothing would change
Whats the point of the thread?
 

Dredger

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FF is dying a very undignified death. We can only hope that the vermin and their sidekick party will perish and never make a comeback.
 

Podolski1.5

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It's not Moses they need, more like Lazarus, or Chuck Norris.
 

Ulster-Lad

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IN the dying minutes of their doomed leaders’ "consensus" meeting Eamon Gilmore leaned forward in his chair and asked the Taoiseach directly when he would go to the country.

Brian Cowen bluntly replied that he intended to cling to office until the final day he could.
Consensus dies on office floor as country looks into abyss | Irish Examiner

This proves that the exercise attempting a Unity Government was futile. Cowen is going to cling to power as long as he can.
 

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I don't think Cowen should be leader of the country,but I don't think we can change just now. We need the 4 year framework agreed by all parties (including the mix of spending cuts /tax), then we need this budget passed. Then,there can be blood.
 

Baron von Biffo

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Given the latest RedC poll (FF at 18% +/- 3%), is there a Moses-like figure who can lead FF to the promised land of government seats after the next GE?

Will it be Lenihan?

Will it be Martin?

Will it be Hannafin?

When will Clara be getting its village idiot back - Tuesday, the end of next week, November 25th?

Regards...jmcc
Are you suggesting that FF will be in the wilderness for 40 years?
 

bprob

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"The heave against cowen" doesn't exist yet
of course there should be one, but the thread title is a bit misleading as things currently stand.
preferably, a heave will be a popular one via an election, rather than an internal FF heave
 

SideysGhost

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I don't think Cowen should be leader of the country,but I don't think we can change just now. We need the 4 year framework agreed by all parties (including the mix of spending cuts /tax), then we need this budget passed. Then,there can be blood.
Wise up. Any plan that FF has their grubby fingerprints on will involve protection of quangos; protection of Ministerial appointments for their mates; protection of croney supply contracts; protection of rent and property tax breaks, subsidies and supports; protection and supports and tax breaks for other sheletered and protected favoured industries; attempts to keep prices throughout the economy artificially inflated; and at all costs to keep the patrician-dispensing-pork-to-the-grateful-peasantry FF cultural ways not just alive but rife in every sector of this corrupt economy.

If FF have their claws on the 4-year plan it will also include bashing the poorest, the sick, the disabled and the most vulnerable; massive tax hikes for the low paid while the wealthiest keep their tax breaks; slashes in welfare while ensuring prices increase to protect the inflated profit margins of connected and protected insiders; encouraging the emigration of the young....

FF are vermin and need to be forcibly booted out of any office whatsoever, anywhere in the entire country. Their entire machinery of patronage needs to be forcibly ripped out. Their entire culture of the nod-and-wink scam and stroke and something for yourself big lad needs to be forcibly supressed, including large amounts of jail time. And the system needs to be radically transformed so that the entire country is under no illusion that anyone even attempting to re-introduce "the old ways" of gombeenism and graft will find themselves with a choice between having every asset seized and a lifetime in the Joy, or one-way plane ticket to the country of their choice.

Fianna Fáil and all its corrupt works need to be eradicated, visibly eradicated, visibly suppressed, and only then will this country be able to prosper and grow again. Because it's the weight of FF graft and corruption that is dragging us under and strangling any chance of productive enterprise or endeavour.
 

jimwin

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Can't see a heave. They'll get murdered at the next election though
 

dent

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Whoever takes over would probably be gone soon after as they would go down as having led FF to a catastrophic defeat. Few will be lining up for that. Then again, become a taoiseach for 5 minutes and have a driver for life as an ex taoiseach !
 

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