The HPV vaccine and the need for zero tolerance for stupidity



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Robert Kennedy Junior is one of America's greatest legal experts. He has applied his expertise to vaccine issues in recent years. What Kennedy reveals in the following talk has worldwide implications because the WHO generally follows American protocols for vaccination. And it has particular relevance for Ireland because Ireland tends to slavishly follow the American healthcare model. Also, Simon Harris is about to offer the HPV vaccine Gardasil to every boy in Ireland (as well as girl). It costs about €400 per child, but sure the taxpayer will pay.

Kennedy shows that the safety testing of Gardasil was a fiasco and that the manufacturer Merck committed all sorts of scientific frauds to get it to market.

[Kennedy has an unfortunate voice disorder, spasmodic dysphonia, which makes him hard to listen to at times, but the words are powerful...]


It is not surprising that Gardasil seems to be the worst childhood vaccine as regards nasty side effects and even death. You don't have to go to America to see that. The hundreds of families in the Regret organization in Ireland could enlighten you, but of course they are excluded by the mainstream media and spurned by successive Ministers for Health. They all have stories to tell like the unfortunate mother in this video [Warning: It will tear your heart out.]:
"My daughter died four hours after the Gardasil vaccine"
No.

Wrong.

Don’t try again.
 

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Just to repeat my polite reminder that of the 450 'vaccine injured' girls that REGRET say they represent, and who definitely exist and are not made up at all:


  • Not a single one has initiated legal proceedings for personal injury
  • Not a single one has reported their case via the HPRA Adverse Reaction reporting system
 

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Not HPV but a significant story about measles and the effects of anti-vax propaganda.

How many mothers miscarry from catching a cold? How many mothers miscarry every day? What a load of nonsense.

Nobody dies from Measles only immune compromised or very young under 12 months (who can't be vaccinated)

Looking at Ukraine:


It looks like the vaccine is spreading the disease. 30% vaccination rate and approx 50 cases of measles for 5 years. Then 90% vaccination rate and its on a run rate of 120,000 cases for 2019.

What a bunch of numpties we have on this thread.
 

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How many mothers miscarry from catching a cold?
None, I would imagine :unsure:
How many mothers miscarry every day? What a load of nonsense.

Nobody dies from Measles only immune compromised or very young under 12 months (who can't be vaccinated)
And the unborn are "very young" are they not?
Looking at Ukraine:


It looks like the vaccine is spreading the disease. 30% vaccination rate and approx 50 cases of measles for 5 years. Then 90% vaccination rate and its on a run rate of 120,000 cases for 2019.

What a bunch of numpties we have on this thread.
Indeed.
 

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How many mothers miscarry from catching a cold? How many mothers miscarry every day? What a load of nonsense.

Nobody dies from Measles only immune compromised or very young under 12 months (who can't be vaccinated)

Looking at Ukraine:


It looks like the vaccine is spreading the disease. 30% vaccination rate and approx 50 cases of measles for 5 years. Then 90% vaccination rate and its on a run rate of 120,000 cases for 2019.

What a bunch of numpties we have on this thread.
OR, how many of the 70% unvaccinated infected the 10% after the rate increased to 90%. So, likely not the vaccine spreading it but the unvaccinated.

Sounds far more plausible.
 

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OR, how many of the 70% unvaccinated infected the 10% after the rate increased to 90%. So, likely not the vaccine spreading it but the unvaccinated.

Sounds far more plausible.
So for 5 years in a row no Measles (50 cases per year) with 30% of the population vaccinated. Then bang in 2017 90% of targeted population vaccinated and the Measles cases sky rocket.

Oh yeah and that was due to unvaccinated suddenly speading the disease and magically not speading the previous 5 years.

Your plausibility is unscientific. You could equally say my conclusion is unscientific. Genotyping the outbreak strain would identify the origin and resolve the issue.
 

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So for 5 years in a row no Measles (50 cases per year) with 30% of the population vaccinated. Then bang in 2017 90% of targeted population vaccinated and the Measles cases sky rocket.

Oh yeah and that was due to unvaccinated suddenly speading the disease and magically not speading the previous 5 years.

Your plausibility is unscientific. You could equally say my conclusion is unscientific. Genotyping the outbreak strain would identify the origin and resolve the issue.
"Genotyping the outbreak strain would identify the origin and resolve the issue."

Perhaps it would.

I'll still run with vaccines being for safer than no vaccines when talking about populations of people. History, and science, are on my side.
 

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"Genotyping the outbreak strain would identify the origin and resolve the issue."

Perhaps it would.

I'll still run with vaccines being for safer than no vaccines when talking about populations of people. History, and science, are on my side.
Actually the idea that vaccines reduced diseases in the 20th Century is annecdotal. Diseases were on the wane long before vaccines became routine.
Sanitation, nutrition, clean water, improved housing, improved living standards saved lives.

As for the HPV vaccine itself, Merck used Aluminium in the placebo thereby invalidating the placebo. Such a joke. Such voodoo medicine up there with wierd theories of Edward Jenner.
 

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Actually the idea that vaccines reduced diseases in the 20th Century is annecdotal. Diseases were on the wane long before vaccines became routine.
Sanitation, nutrition, clean water, improved housing, improved living standards saved lives.

As for the HPV vaccine itself, Merck used Aluminium in the placebo thereby invalidating the placebo. Such a joke. Such voodoo medicine up there with wierd theories of Edward Jenner.
waahahahahahaha, any more straws out there?

Polio anyone?
 

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Actually the idea that vaccines reduced diseases in the 20th Century is annecdotal. Diseases were on the wane long before vaccines became routine.
Sanitation, nutrition, clean water, improved housing, improved living standards saved lives.

As for the HPV vaccine itself, Merck used Aluminium in the placebo thereby invalidating the placebo. Such a joke. Such voodoo medicine up there with wierd theories of Edward Jenner.
Im old enough to remember when you would see and meet people who wore huge platforms on one foot.
"just a mild childhood illness"?
Holy Sh!t...Now I get it, it's the furriners fault! I did notice a correlation between the far right and anti-vaxxers.
 

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Actually the idea that vaccines reduced diseases in the 20th Century is annecdotal. Diseases were on the wane long before vaccines became routine.
Sanitation, nutrition, clean water, improved housing, improved living standards saved lives.

As for the HPV vaccine itself, Merck used Aluminium in the placebo thereby invalidating the placebo. Such a joke. Such voodoo medicine up there with wierd theories of Edward Jenner.
Yeah exactly.

But what a cracking coincidence that sanitation, nutrition, clean water, improved housing, improved living standards all but wiped out diphtheria in the 1940s.

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And then sanitation, nutrition, clean water, improved housing, improved living standards all but wiped out polio in the 1950s


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And then sanitation, nutrition, clean water, improved housing, improved living standards all but wiped out measles in the 1960s

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And then sanitation, nutrition, clean water, improved housing and improved living standards all but wiped out Rubella in the 1970s

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It's kinda crazy that, isn't it - the sanitation, nutrition, clean water, improved housing and improved living standards that sorted diphtheria in the 1940s did nothing for rubella until the 1970s, and then all of a sudden it worked like a charm. It's almost as if there is some other factor that you're not allowing for.

And what a pity that the Romanians decided to abandon sanitation, nutrition, clean water, improved housing and improved living standards in 2017, entirely coincidentally just at the same time as a religious-inspired antivax campaign, leading to the deaths of dozens of children. Stupid Romanians - if only they hadn't gone back to 19th Century living conditions in the past two years.

 

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Almost every report in the mainstream media these days about vaccination is a rehearsal for the planned programme of compulsory vaccination (latest here). Varadkar, Harris and Big Pharma don't see any major obstacles, despite it being unconstitutional. Varadkar-Harris are saying "Sure, haven't we had compulsory fluoridation of everyone in Ireland for the last 55 years? All the Soros people, I mean, the NGOs are ready to help on this. It'll be a cinch. And we'll get several new Pharma factories all over the country, employing thousands of the unskilled and semi-skilled immigrants. We'll be soooo popular..."

The following is what I have learned from my experience (gaining lifelong immunity to measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, pertussis, and scarlet fever; many years of appropriate education; 30 years of studying the fluoridation issue, 20 years of studying the vaccination issue; many years of political activity, including being a founder member of the Green Party [Ecology Party, then Green Alliance...] which was taken over by entryists and chancers in this century; and meeting hundreds of unvaccinated people).

  • Vaccines are not safe. No childhood vaccine has ever been licensed based on a study that included an inert placebo. In America the Dept of Health (HHS) and the National Institutes of Health have broken the very laws that placed them in charge of vaccine safety.
  • Vaccines are not effective.
  • Herd immunity is an illusion (and one of the reasons they want to force-vaccinate us).
  • No one actually needs vaccines -- ever. No one.
  • The right to refuse vaccination is an absolute right.
  • Compulsory vaccination is always wrong.
  • Vaccination should not be funded by the taxpayer. Those who want a vaccine but cannot afford it can be recompensed by the vaccine manufacturer who can easily afford it. Those who don't want vaccination shouldn't have to pay for vaccines, through their taxes or any other way.
  • The claim that vaccination wiped out smallpox is not supported by science and history. The history of vaccination badly needs to be rewritten.
  • The history of polio is utterly different from the medical establishment's claims.
  • Measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, and pertussis were not public health problems in the western world before the vaccines came along.
  • BCG did not save us from tuberculosis. The vaccine is actually useless.
  • Medical training teaches doctors next to nothing about the history of vaccination and the ingredients of vaccines. That is one of the reasons your doctor hates you asking questions about vaccines. There are many other reasons, not least the money that doctors and nurses make.
  • It is becoming apparent that vaccination is the greatest racket of all time.
  • The people who control vaccination programmes (in Ireland the public health specialists of the HSE) are the same people who control fluoridation, which is proven to be a conspiracy, a scientific fraud, and an infringement of human rights. Those people cannot be trusted.
  • Vaccine damage is a reality. The extent of the damage is hidden by the medical establishment.
  • The vaccine manufacturers -- usually Merck, Sanofi Pasteur or GSK, those appallingly unethical corporations -- are not held liable for vaccine damage. Any compensation for vaccine damage is paid by the taxpayer, though you have to go up against the state's best legal teams to get it.
  • The medical establishment represents the interests of Big Pharma. We saw that again recently with the case of the Pandemrix narcolepsy victim (only one of many victims). The manufacturer, GSK, escaped with no apportioning of blame for their dangerous product, and the Irish taxpayer will foot the bill, as ever.
  • Sticking needles into babies is the most unnatural thing in the world. When you look at what is being injected -- toxins, heavy metals, cell lines from animals and aborted foetuses -- surely you must think "How can such a thing be?"
Good luck with your vaccines.
 

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The above post should come with a public health warning.
 

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[edited for scientific validity and evidence of critical thinking]
I nearly had a full house on vacccine conspiracy bingo! All that was missing was David robert Grimes (so close)

She even manged to get Soros and immigrants in there. Bravo!
 

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I nearly had a full house on vacccine conspiracy bingo! All that was missing was David robert Grimes (so close)
I should have mentioned David Robert Crimes, because he is of course putting himself out there in the media again, this time in the British Medical Journal. And, as often happens, his ignorance is shown up, because several vaccination experts responded in the comments.

As you would expect, DRG manages to mention his book: "... Delving into all these would take some time here, but if you're interested I've just wrote a book entitled the Irrational Ape on precisely why we get things so wrong in everything from medicine to politics. Feel free to check out if you're so inclined!"

One of the vaccination experts, John D Stone, later sums up the problem with DRG's interventions: "It is a great pity that DRG has not responded to the many issues raised by correspondents here. DRG is an advocate of a policy but if the policy can only be sustained by riding roughshod over its critics, what moral integrity does it have, and how can it be safe?"

You don't have to look hard to see that the policy has no moral integrity.
 

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One of the vaccination experts, John D Stone, later sums up the problem with DRG's interventions: "It is a great pity that DRG has not responded to the many issues raised by correspondents here. DRG is an advocate of a policy but if the policy can only be sustained by riding roughshod over its critics, what moral integrity does it have, and how can it be safe?"

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"Fireosing" - Firehose of falsehood - Wikipedia

An explainer from Vox.
 


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