The hypocrisy of our attitude to domestic violence

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I cant wait. Please explain what the fvck it is your are talking about. Be very clear now. I am thick and a bit slow so spell it out please. What exactly is it that I have been getting away with.
Do you agree that simple pushing, simple shoving, simple slapping, simple abuse, and simple bullying is the almost exclusive preserve of women?
 
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Do you agree that there is an exponentially growing population of men?

1. Unemployed and unemployable.

2. In prison.

3. Living in a bed-sit.

4. Dead by their own hand.

Because, they didn't get the joke and somebody changed the rules when they weren't looking.
Somebody also forgot to tell the women. It's not funny anymore.
 

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I was watching Room to Improve last night, yeah I know, but it was a Sunday evening... Anyway, the couple featured seemed to be very happy together but at one point during a bit of banter, the small petite woman put her hands around her taller husband's neck in a mock strangle. Everyone laughed. If the tables were turned, and the man had put his hands around the neck of the woman, I can guarantee that Twitter would have been awash wih condemnations. It put me in mind of a man I knew years ago who was also much taller than his wife, but used to say she was "6 foot 6 with a poker in her hand".

Why is a woman throttling a man considered acceptable to broadcast, when the opposite is not?
It's acceptable because it was a joke. And would still be acceptable if a man was doing it. As long as it was clearly a joke.
 

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I was watching Room to Improve last night, yeah I know, but it was a Sunday evening... Anyway, the couple featured seemed to be very happy together but at one point during a bit of banter, the small petite woman put her hands around her taller husband's neck in a mock strangle. Everyone laughed. If the tables were turned, and the man had put his hands around the neck of the woman, I can guarantee that Twitter would have been awash wih condemnations. It put me in mind of a man I knew years ago who was also much taller than his wife, but used to say she was "6 foot 6 with a poker in her hand".

Why is a woman throttling a man considered acceptable to broadcast, when the opposite is not?
Because actual domestic violence is usually perpetuated by men against women.
 

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It's acceptable because it was a joke. And would still be acceptable if a man was doing it. As long as it was clearly a joke.
Ref: Arkell v. Pressdram or Smith and Wesson,,,,,Whichever.

Dju feel your fn great livelihood being threatened, eh?
 

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Because actual domestic violence is usually perpetuated by men against women.
After the fact.

Stop the simple pushing, simple shoving, simple slapping, simple abuse, and simple bullying. It's not acceptable.

Get the word around to the sisters ASAP.
 

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Ref: Arkell v. Pressdram or Smith and Wesson,,,,,Whichever.

Dju feel your livelihood being threatened, eh?
You keep up with this nonsense, as though domestic issues affect my livelihood in any way.

They don't. The state can ban family law lawyers for all I care.


I couldn't be more indifferent.

Now I am going to point one thing out to you just the once.


You are angry at the law and anyone connected to it because you had an acimonious breakup.

I'm sorry for you, but I had nothing to do with that.

More specifically, I didn't marry your wife, you did.
 

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The only thing that "offended" me was the assumption that horseplay is fine if it's a woman doing it, but not if it's a man. Then you have all the snowflakes crying foul because the man is obviously a bully. To a more dramatic extent, you see all these people saying how sorry they feel for poor Melania Trump, how unhappy she looks and making assumptions that she is in a horrible relationship. She's a big girl, if she wanted out I'm sure she'd be well able to do it. Like I said, I'm all for equality in relationships so I was surprised at the non-response, although obviously I shouldn't have been.
Who said it's not fine if it's a man doing it?

Did you read the link I posted on page 2?

While you were watching some horseplay last night, getting offended that it may constitute ignored domestic violence, I was watching the story of Denetria Council, scarred for life from her shoulders to the bottom of her feet, tied up and beaten for 17 days with a belt and electric cord by her partner, in front of his eight year old daughter.

I'd like to suggest you read up on that, or watch the programme when it comes on TV again.
 

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It's acceptable because it was a joke. And would still be acceptable if a man was doing it. As long as it was clearly a joke.
I would suggest he felt the need to exploit the simple fact to make a very valid point. I concur. Is that ok with you?
 

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I liked what they did with the upstairs of the extension.
 

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Who said it's not fine if it's a man doing it?

Did you read the link I posted on page 2?

While you were watching some horseplay last night, getting offended that it may constitute ignored domestic violence, I was watching the story of Denetria Council, scarred for life from her shoulders to the bottom of her feet, tied up and beaten for 17 days with a belt and electric cord by her partner, in front of his eight year old daughter.

I'd like to suggest you read up on that, or watch the programme when it comes on TV again.
Katherine Mary Knight (born 24 October 1955) is the first Australian woman to be sentenced to life imprisonment without parole. She was convicted of the murder of her partner, John Price, in October 2001, ... Stir her up the wrong way or do the wrong thing and you're ************************************, don't ever think of playing up on her [cheating on ...


ah! Fu*ck it. Round and round in circles now. No surrender, eh?
 

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Katherine Mary Knight (born 24 October 1955) is the first Australian woman to be sentenced to life imprisonment without parole. She was convicted of the murder of her partner, John Price, in October 2001, ... Stir her up the wrong way or do the wrong thing and you're ************************************, don't ever think of playing up on her [cheating on ...


ah! Fu*ck it. Round and round in circles now. No surrender, eh?
What are you blabbering about?

Are there women who murder their partners in cold blood? Yes, absolutely.

Are there women who beat their partners? Yes, absolutely.

But as Rodshaft said, it's pretty clear you've had a very acrimonious breakup.

And hey (channelling my inner Judge Judy) you chose her, you picked her, you married her.
 

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There are two relevant differences to take into account: in most relationships the man does not have much to fear from the woman in a fair fight and fewer women than men are violent.

I think there is a real double standard in our attitude to jokes about domestic violence and perhaps even to perpetrators but I think there is a rational explanation for it.
 

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Whether in the home or the workplace, men regularly suddenly find themselves in the middle of a vicious life-changing row long after the row actually began. The initial reaction is shock, followed by fear. Depending on the individual's natural reaction to fear whatever happens has been pre-programmed by fight or flight.

The cards are stacked because the woman has been preparing the ground for a long time and the choreography is set to move to her tune.

ref Thread. Science discovers liberals (and hence feminists) are "psychotic" and prone to authoritarianism.

R3, Merc, Viking.....BS, BS ,BS

Over and out.
 
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What are you blabbering about?

Are there women who murder their partners in cold blood? Yes, absolutely.

Are there women who beat their partners? Yes, absolutely.

But as Rodshaft said, it's pretty clear you've had a very acrimonious breakup.

And hey (channelling my inner Judge Judy) you chose her, you picked her, you married her.
Don't feed it. it thinks its clever.....and probably thinks its funny too.
 

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by Joseph Earnest November 15, 2013



Newscast Media HOUSTON—Three years ago I wrote an article based on a scientific study done by Harvard Medical School that revealed domestic violence was not as one-sided as the media often depicts it. The article to this very day is the second most popular article I've written and is widely cited online and offline.



I have since discovered that the original article that was published on the Harvard Medical School Web site has been scrubbed, and my guess is that certain activist groups perhaps pressured the professors to remove it. Most of these institutions depend on endowments and grants to function, so it is understandable how that may have been the cause of its removal. As you can see, if you click on this original hyperlink, the article is gone:

Original link from Harvard Medical School was here >> (pop-up)



However, fear not. Even three years ago, my discernment and sound judgment enabled me to envisage something like that happening, so I took a screen-shot of the entire article, just in case it was taken down. I am re-posting the article and will compress it into PDF format that way you are able to use it as a reference resource. You will find the PDF at the very end of the article.



One thing about Newscast Media is that it does not receive any funds from sponsors and is self-funded, therefore we are not beholden to any entity, and have the liberty to publish content as we so wish. That's what true independent and objective journalism exemplifies.



Another interesting aspect of the article is the comments section. There are over 250 comments on this particular article, that you might find either amusing, or instructive at the very end. Below is the original article:



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Original article by Joseph Earnest July 15, 2010



Newscast Media HOUSTON—As the media flashes images and plays tapes of Mel Gibson screaming at his former lover, one has to wonder what the other side of the story is. It is obvious that Mel Gibson was set up by his girlfriend, whom he claims tried to extort him. While I don't condone any kind of violence, I have to present to my reading audience some cold hard facts that the 'mainstream media' has chosen to ignore in relation to domestic violence.



Forensic expert Arlo West said on Good Morning America, in regard to the tapes, "I believe these are professionally done. I think she had help. She clearly was speaking into what we call a large diaphragm microphone. Her voice is very well engineered. She sounds great. To authenticate a recording it must be an original."



The information presented to you comes from investigative research of data produced by reputable organizations like Harvard Medical School, The Center for Disease Control (CDC) and the American Psychiatric Association, just to mention a few.



The mainstream media seems to imply that men are the sole perpetrators of violence against women, but research proves otherwise. A recent study by Harvard Medical School conducted a survey of 11,000 men and women and found that 50% of the violence was reciprocal. Both men and women also took responsibility for being equally violent in the heat of passion.



The Harvard study found that when violence was one-sided, meaning unprovoked, both men and the women themselves who took the study said 70% of the time it was the women who committed violence against the men.

See screenshot of study here>> (pop-up)

Another study by the American Psychiatric Association that backs the Harvard Medical School study was published by Joan Arehart-Treichel who says, "When it comes to non-reciprocal violence between intimate partners, women are more often the perpetrators." The Harvard study has been peer reviewed and published in the American Public Health Journal as shown here (pop-up)



View comments (250)+plus



Click here to read or download entire PDF of the article (pop-up)



(The entire Harvard study can be found May 2007 edition of the American Journal of Public Health. Volume 9, 5th Edition, pages 941-947.)
 


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