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The IDF's new Chief Rabbi Permits Rape of Gentile Women

Draoi

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The IDF's new chief rabbi has said that raping Gentile women is permissable for IDF soldiers.

The 59-year-old colonel was chosen to replace the outgoing chief rabbi, Brig. Gen. Rafi Peretz, who is stepping down after six years in the position.

The rabbi gave a more shocking answer on the same site when asked if soldiers were permitted to rape women during war. Karim repliebbid that, as part of maintaining fitness for the army and the soldiers' morale during fighting, it is permitted to "breach" the walls of modesty and "satisfy the evil inclination by lying with attractive Gentile women against their will, out of consideration for the difficulties faced by the soldiers and for overall success."


Ynetnews News - IDF's chief rabbi-to-be permits raping women in wartime

Is this morally acceptable for any army? Rape of course is a war crime according to International Law and the Geneva Conventions.

In my opinion this is pure savagery, and it's incredible that the interntional community can ignore it. The IDF are openly condoning war crimes. If any other state attempted this it would cause an international intervention.

One of the pretexts for the west's military intervention in Libya was that the Libyan army was raping civilians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Libyan_rape_allegations

This turned out to be a lie by the way, because the Arab Libyan army wasn't as barbaric as the israeli army. They would never stoop to such depravity. But just the mere rumour was enough to justify an aerial bombing campaign and a no-fly zone.
 


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He already apologised and withdrew the remarks didn't he?
 

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the Abrahamic religions, a great bunch of lads. on the plus side a liberal Jewish cookie was upset when she looked into IDF rapes of Arab women and when she couldn't find any she concluded that the IDF was so racist for not doing so,...cant win
 

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He already apologised and withdrew the remarks didn't he?
If he did then the article I linked, which is from an Israeli newspaper, doesn't mention it. And I don't think a top military official can simply withdraw his calling for a serious war crime.
 

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This fooking lunatic needs to be locked up! Mind you given that the 2 pigz recorded in Rosport laughing and joking about potentially raping a woman got only a slap on the wrist may be the Guards might be given carte blanche here to do that to working class women!
 

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... In my opinion this is pure savagery, and it's incredible that the interntional community can ignore it. The IDF are openly condoning war crimes. If any other state attempted this it would cause an international intervention...
Let's review the facts here:

A. The IDF Chief of Staff Gadi Eisenkot on Monday only nominated this Rabbi Col. Eyal Karim for the position.

B. This story from a number of years back previously surfaced in 2012 and the IDF disassociated themselves, while the Rabbbi published a clarification stating that his comments were in no way meant to be applied in the modern era, but rather pertained to a theoretical discussion of the biblical permission for a Jewish soldier to kidnap an enemy woman and wed her.

What this Rabbi wrote in response to a religious question about whether rape is permitted was as follows (through Google translate):

Israeli wars - wars are wars of command and authority - are wars commands. Beige different from other wars are taking place among the nations of the world among themselves.
Since that war is essentially an individual matter but a fighting nation as a whole, there are situations in the individual's personality "deleted" for the common good. And vice versa, there is a big unit and endanger the rescue of the individual when it is necessary for reasons moral setbacks.
One of the most important values ​​and crucial war is keeping the military's combat capability. Therefore, fearful of returning editors hearted war, so as not to melt the heart of his brother, and the feelings and needs of the individual notes angle fund to finance the nation's success in the war.
Just war "hacked" boundaries of the danger for others, so "hacked" war modesty and training. Wine libation not permitted in times of peace, war was allowed to keep the well-being of the fighters. Forbidden foods allowed during the war (and even when there are several methods kosher food), to maintain their fighters, even in conditions of peace are prohibited.
It also rejects war some aspects of incest, also connects to Goya is a very serious matter, but it is permitted in war (which is permitted under), out of consideration for the difficulties of the fighters. And since the success of the rule in war are before us, the Torah permitted the individual to provide the conditions which allowed the evil inclination, to ensure the success of all.​

C. His clarifications included saying, "obviously, in our times, when the world has advanced to a level of morality in which one does not marry captives, one must not perform this act, which is also entirely against the army’s values and orders,”.

D. Several Israeli lawmakers have decried Karim’s nomination, saying he is not “suitable to be the rabbinic authority of the army, in which tens of thousands of women serve, and is not suitable to represent Jewish morality in any form.”

E. In addition to Karim, Eisenkot nominated another 12 colonels for promotion to brigadier general, pending the approval of Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman.


But the conclusion that you draw from the above is that "The IDF are openly condoning war crimes..."?!

You must be some a$$hole to draw that conclusion...
 

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This fooking lunatic needs to be locked up! Mind you given that the 2 pigz recorded in Rosport laughing and joking about potentially raping a woman got only a slap on the wrist may be the Guards might be given carte blanche here to do that to working class women!
Is there no minimum standard of ganglion length that applies to posting here?
 

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Israel is a theocracy. It's what they do. Demonise women.
But it isn't really a theocracy. You are just saying that because it sounds like an insult to a democracy.

And if all they did was demonise women, they wouldn't have much to show for their efforts. They seem to be much better at other things.
 

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If he did then the article I linked, which is from an Israeli newspaper, doesn't mention it. And I don't think a top military official can simply withdraw his calling for a serious war crime.
Given your obvious interest in the IDF/Jewism/Israel it is noticable that that you wouldn't be bothered digging a bit deeper to determine the background to this.

It is clear that you want him to have said it and meant it in this context. It follows that you are either in favour of raping women for the purposes of benefiting the IDF or damaging the IDF. Which is it?
 

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Given your obvious interest in the IDF/Jewism/Israel it is noticable that that you wouldn't be bothered digging a bit deeper to determine the background to this.

It is clear that you want him to have said it and meant it in this context. It follows that you are either in favour of raping women for the purposes of benefiting the IDF or damaging the IDF. Which is it?
That's not clear at all, it's an absurdly twisted logic. I would certainly rather a world where no one would say such things, and I've already stated that I think that rape is savagery and a war crime, and that the international community ought to intervene to prevent it.

However the fact is that the Chief rabbi of the IDF said that it was permissable for IDF soldiers to rape women, and a person in his position can never simply take something like that back. Do you condemn what he said, as I and everyone else do?
 

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Are you being facetious?



Here's a close-up:


I suppose the difference is that no one on any side would condone the rapes of these women in Cairo but Israel supporters seem to support the approval of rape by this IDF rabbi. It seems that our resident Israeli supporters will never condemn any Israeli action including the support for rape or the murders of children.

Its a funny (not ha ha) position that you find yourself in.
 

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It seems that our resident Israeli supporters will never condemn any Israeli action including the support for rape or the murders of children.
It's not an "Israeli action". No one supports it. The only thing I did on a previous post was set out exactly what happened as the OP intentionally distorted and misrepresented events to try and demonise the IDF and Israel and call for an "international intervention" to stop these "rapes".

Or go on, give us a laugh at your stupidity. Show us where any "resident Israeli supporters" have expressed support for rape or the murders of children. Show us even where an Israeli has done so.

Make your case, moron.
 

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It is Israel, hardly surprising.

They engage in ethnic cleansing and are setting up a state based on a racialistic ideology. They torture and kill civilians and label civilian populations as their enemy.

What do you expect? The Rabbis are tasked with producing words that sum up concisely what the Israeli project is about in order to inspire. They know what it's about, the utter dehumanisation of the Palestinian 'other' and so that comes out in what they say.

Look at the Bible OT ffs. Genocide and rape are gifts from YHWH.
 

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It's all in the thread title, isn't it.

[video=youtube;Fgc9btuuT00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgc9btuuT00[/video]
 

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