The Irish border - it's bootcamp time for slow-learning Brexiteers.

Tribal

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Am I the only one here fearing the hard brexiters pushing a Crimea solution to the border problem?
Repartition as a fallback plan was always on the backburner for hardline unionists but in reality the majority of nationalists live east of the Bann and the British public have zero appetite for Trouble II. Even the Brexiters don't care what happens NI, they see no problems with Irelands UK/EU border as in their mind it's an offshore problem, but they become apoplectic whenever the notion of an EU border with Scotland is mentioned.
 


Peppermint

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Good point, think of the cost of jailing ll the people caught importing illegal fuel.
Do you know the err "FF almost" presidential candidate last time around, his dealings with that fuel smuggler, should have been yet another question mark over the dodgy fecker..
 

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Some of us may have seen the footage from Channel 4 News last night depicting various British people attempting to draw the Irish border. I don't think it's entirely coincidental that the guy at the end who showed the greatest understanding of the complexities of the issue was the one who made by far the best attempt at drawing it.

During the run-up to the Brexit referendum in June last year, some Irish politicians such as Enda Kenny did point out that the border would cause major complications in the event that the UK voted to leave the EU. They were invariably told to shut up and stop being "offensive".

In my experience, there is a significant number of British (especially English) people who have never cottoned on to the relationships between these islands. Many are not precisely sure of Northern Ireland's position within the UK. Some seem to think that the Republic of Ireland is in the UK. In that light, it's no surprise that the NI/ROI border didn't feature as an issue in the campaign and - without actual evidence - I'd hazard a large bet that those who voted for Brexit were the ones who were by far the more ignorant about it.

Well, sit back, my dear Brexiteers. Over the next few weeks, ye'll learn more about the NI/RoI border than ye learned in your whole lives.

EDIT: Thanks to Deadlock for highlighting this:
The Brexit minister David Davis thinks the Republic of Ireland is part of the UK
He misspoke in a live interview. Big deal.

Materially he as correct. There is a pre-dating Common Travel Area Agreement bewteeen our countries. That is the problem he is referring to.

The Northern border is inconsequential to Brexit. It matters only to us.

We seem to be going into a dangerous and misplaced hubris frenzy over Brexit.
 

Wascurito

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He misspoke in a live interview. Big deal.

Materially he as correct. There is a pre-dating Common Travel Area Agreement bewteeen our countries. That is the problem he is referring to.

The Northern border is inconsequential to Brexit. It matters only to us.

We seem to be going into a dangerous and misplaced hubris frenzy over Brexit.
How can he be "materially correct) (WTF does that mean anyway?) whilst misspeaking?? All this nonsense about "taking back control of borders" whilst insisting that there'll be no controls on their only land border is one long misspeak by the Brexiteers.

Irish agreement to the UK's future relationship with the EU is highly consequential to Brexit and the Irish are absolutely correct to push back hard.
 

Man or Mouse

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Repartition as a fallback plan was always on the backburner for hardline unionists but in reality the majority of nationalists live east of the Bann and the British public have zero appetite for Trouble II. Even the Brexiters don't care what happens NI, they see no problems with Irelands UK/EU border as in their mind it's an offshore problem, but they become apoplectic whenever the notion of an EU border with Scotland is mentioned.
That's because Scotland counts.
 

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How can he be "materially correct) (WTF does that mean anyway?) whilst misspeaking?? All this nonsense about "taking back control of borders" whilst insisting that there'll be no controls on their only land border is one long misspeak by the Brexiteers.

Irish agreement to the UK's future relationship with the EU is highly consequential to Brexit and the Irish are absolutely correct to push back hard.
It means there is a law stating there will be free movement of people between the UK (including NI) and Ireland. And that predates membership of Ireland and the UK to the EU.


There are two possibilities. David Davis actually doesn't know Ireland isn't part of the UK, or he does, but muddled his speech when trying to discuss the complications of the common travel area.

Morons go for the former, because that is what they want to believe.

Stupid thread.

Zoo. Hell no, double zoo.
 
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