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The Irish Left and the Extermination of the Native Gael

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The term Ethnocide is defined as the deliberate and systematic destruction of the culture of an ethnic group.

We hear that the number of young people speaking Irish in the Gaeltachts is in free fall, and the media is engaged in a relentless campaign to enforce Anglo-Saxon norms in all parts of Ireland. But, this has been going on for a long time. We now have something different.

Today, the Left is embarrassed by even the term Gael itself. As if it was some kind of crime against Leftism to suggest that there is, or ever was, any such thing as the Gael. Because to admit the existence of the Gael would be to suggest that the Gael has some special kind of right in Ireland, that people from, say Brazil, don't have. And the Irish Left can't admit that possibility.

The result of this is that not only are the Gael being exterminated by the normative pressure of Anglo-Saxon culture and language, but is also now facing an ethnocide from an Irish Left - including many, if not most, so called Irish Republicans - who just want to see the "Irish" as the aggregate of everyone and anyone who happens to be on the island (another trendy term) at any given time.

The modern Liberal \ Leftist \ Republican view is that each individual is to be regarded as an atomized being, with a separate and private relationship with the state. So, the Nigerian with an Irish passport is to be regarded as being exactly the same as a Gael with an Irish passport. In effect, the Nigerian and the Gael are annihilated, and replaced with a bodiless legal entity called the citizen (really, the consumer). Everything that made him human, i.e. his language, culture, family, friends, his place as a father, a son a brother, are made irrelevant (as long as he can get by in the English language).

And we see this with gender neutral marriage, where marriage is divorced from the body, and made into a contract between bodiless legal entities. Under such a régime, the Gael must be annihilated - as must any other kind of ethnic subject. The concept of equality - so loved by Gerry Adams- strips everyone down to the lowest common denominator, which is a sort of idealized Cogito, devoid of human attribute. But, since Ireland had been the land of the Gael, the crime against the Gael is the worst.

The Working Class as a collective identity is a kind of idealism. In reality, every Working Class person is a man or a woman, a son or a daughter, a Gael or a Roman, or so many much more local distinctions. Regarding everyone as simply a Proletarian is also a kind of ethnocide, as their ethnic and sexed self is regarded as irrelevant. It must be said that this is a bourgeois view, and it is actually a misinterpretation of Marx. When Marx said the worker has no nation, he was saying that there was no workers' state as he wrote, not that the workers are not German or French etc.

In ancient times, the slave was a being cut off from all ties of family and tribe. In symbolic terms, the slave was already dead. Today, our citizens are in the same situation.

The kind of state that Leftists and Republicans are advocating today is not able to take account of the ethnicity of the person, i.e. of the person as part of a human community. Instead of the recognition of his place in the human community - he is offered human rights. Anywhere human rights exist, the community is already dead.

The Gael never developed a bourgeois form. The Gael was aristocrat or peasant. Those moving into the Anglo-Irish towns and cities had to drop their Gaelic mindset and adopt the Anglo-Saxon liberal mindset. By making the liberal idea of human rights the only mindset allowed, you actually exterminate the Gaelic ethnicity. And this process is being repeated around the world by imperialism against many races and ethnicities.

Liberal consciousness is a false consciousness. As Adam Smith put it, the Liberal individual spends his time huckstering and bartering. But, he does so in the same way all all other Liberal individuals do. In contrast, the individual of heroic society must win his individualism in his personal battle with death. This is a more real individuation. As in all things, the bourgeois wants his individualism at discount price.

Those who went out in 1916 were not bourgeois in mindset, but heroic, i.e. aristocratic. It was an encounter with death that the bourgeois cannot understand or relate to. And we see that in bourgeois commentaries ever since - particularly this year.

It's clear that the EU idea is to mix the populations of Europe (and others) to such an extent that we will come to the situation were the poor have no ethnicity, and the rich have no ethnicity. Now, this might seem like a good thing for working class solidarity, but, in reality, people don't join together and take risks for abstract concepts like the working class. They are only willing to shed their blood for their own blood. If you have 500 million working class people in the EU, who have been stripped of their ethnic identity, they will not join together about anything. They will represent nothing but a herd of cattle. The ruling class are well aware of this, and working towards this situation.

Sadly, the Left is helping them.
 
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Polly Ticks

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Well if "the Irish left," surely they only have themselves to blame.
 

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The term Ethnocide is defined as the deliberate and systematic destruction of the culture of an ethnic group.

We hear that the number of young people speaking Irish in the Gaeltachts is in free fall, and the media is engaged in a relentless campaign to enforce Anglo-Saxon norms in all parts of Ireland. But, this has been going on for a long time. We now have something different.

Today, the Left is embarrasse d by even the term Gael itself. As if it was some kind of crime against Leftism to suggest that there is, or ever was, any such thing as the Gael. Because to admit the existence of the Gael would be to suggest that the Gael has some special kind of right in Ireland, that people from, say Brazil, don't have. And the Irish Left can't admit that possibility.

The result of this is that not only are the Gael being exterminated by the normative pressure of Anglo-Saxon culture and language, but is also now facing an ethnocide from an Irish Left - including many, if not most, so called Irish Republicans - who just want to see the "Irish" as the aggregate of everyone and anyone who happens to be on the island (another trendy term) at any given time.

The modern Liberal \ Leftist \ Republican view is that each individual is to be regarded as an atomized being, with a separate and private relationship with the state. So, the Nigerian with an Irish passport is to be regarded as being exactly the same as a Gael with an Irish passport. In effect, the Nigerian and the Gael are annihilated, and replaced with a bodiless legal entity called the citizen (really, the consumer). Everything that made him human, i.e. his language, culture, family, friends, his place as a father, a son a brother, are made irrelevant (as long as he can get by in the English language).

And we see this with gender neutral marriage, where marriage is divorced from the body, and made into a contract between bodiless legal entities. Under such a régime, the Gael must be annihilated - as must any other kind of ethnic subject. The concept of equality - so loved by Gerry Adams- strips everyone down to the lowest common denominator, which is a sort of idealized Cogito, devoid of human attribute. But, since Ireland had been the land of the Gael, the crime against the Gael is the worst.

The Working Class as a collective identity is a kind of idealism. In reality, every Working Class person is a man or a woman, a son or a daughter, a Gael or a Roman, or so many much more local distinctions. Regarding everyone as simply a Proletarian is also a kind of ethnocide, as their ethnic and sexed self is regarded as irrelevant. It must be said that this is a bourgeois view, and it is actually a misinterpretation of Marx. When Marx said the worker has no nation, he was saying that there was no workers' state as he wrote, not that the workers are not German or French etc.

In ancient times, the slave was a being cut off from all ties of family and tribe. In symbolic terms, the slave was already dead. Today, our citizens are in the same situation.

The kind of state that Leftists and Republicans are advocating today is not able to take account of the ethnicity of the person, i.e. of the person as part of a human community. Instead of the recognition of his place in the human community - he is offered human rights. Anywhere human rights exist, the community is already dead.

The Gael never developed a bourgeois form. The Gael was aristocrat or peasant. Those moving into the Anglo-Irish towns and cities had to drop their Gaelic mindset and adopt the Anglo-Saxon liberal mindset. By making the liberal idea of human rights the only mindset allowed, you actually exterminate the Gaelic ethnicity. And this process is being repeated around the world by imperialism against many races and ethnicities.

Liberal consciousness is a false consciousness. As Adam Smith put it, the Liberal individual spends his time huckstering and bartering. But, he does so in the same way all all other Liberal individuals do. In contrast, the individual of heroic society must win his individualism in his personal battle with death. This is a more real individuation. As in all things, the bourgeois wants his individualism at discount price.

Those who went out in 1916 were not bourgeois in mindset, but heroic, i.e. aristocratic. It was an encounter with death that the bourgeois cannot understand or relate to. And we see that in bourgeois commentaries ever since - particularly this year.

It's clear that the EU idea is to mix the populations of Europe (and others) to such an extent that we will come to the situation were the poor have no ethnicity, and the rich have no ethnicity. Now, this might seem like a good thing for working class solidarity, but, in reality, people don't join together and take risks for abstract concepts like the working class. They are only willing to shed their blood for their own blood. If you have 500 million working class people in the EU, who have been stripped of their ethnic identity, they will not join together about anything. They will represent nothing but a herd of cattle. The ruling class are well aware of this, and working towards this situation.

Sadly, the Left is helping them.
Please.

If you can communicate the above in Irish, I will read it, and engage with you.

If not, please stop trying to drag my culture into your racist wánkfest...
 

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zoo :roll:

Trotskyism has been extraordinarily influential on all of the Western Left, including on what left of Irish Republicanism. This is a cancerous creed that Comrade Stalin was very wise to cut out of the body politic of the Soviet Union. It has utterly destroyed the power of the working class - from within - in the USA and Europe. Of course, Lenin saw all of this coming when he wrote his essay Left Communism - An Infantile Disorder.
 

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Please.

If you can communicate the above in Irish, I will read it, and engage with you.

If not, please stop trying to drag my culture into your racist wánkfest...
Nobody is asking you to read it.
 

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Communist Party of Ireland / Páirtí Cumannach na hÉireann

The Communist Party of Ireland has a bilingual website and all its statements and publications are in Irish and English. It suggests to me that they are fighting a rearguard action against assimilation by Anglo-US culture. The "Left" isn't to blame for everything you don't like.
I would have some respect for the CPI. They are about the best of the Irish Left.
 

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Very well written Taidhg,the left are a cancerous parasite eating away at the government teat for their own ends to cash in on this G-L-O-B-A-L-I-S-A-T-I-O-N. The left were never about workers rights or even human rights...Look at mick wallace, a tax doger who sold his winery for one euro to his brother to avoid paying tax to the irish public who vote for him,he takes us for a bunch of plebs...Like good old mick most of these leftists are capitalists when it suits their bank balance and then put on the social justice guy fawkes mask when it suits them...Ie full of the proverbial,and not to be trusted,i learnt that lesson a long time ago!
 

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Taidhg and Ratio are turning this site into a mini stormfront.
 

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Communist Party of Ireland / Páirtí Cumannach na hÉireann

The Communist Party of Ireland has a bilingual website and all its statements and publications are in Irish and English. It suggests to me that they are fighting a rearguard action against assimilation by Anglo-US culture. The "Left" isn't to blame for everything you don't like.
Why is it that the creepy Trotskyite filth of PBP and the Socialist Party get more votes than the CPI? If I had the opportunity I would definitely vote CPI. I agree with what they have to say far more than with any of the Parties I have actually voted for.
 

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Cád é an Gaelige ar "Trolling"?

Ba chóir snáithe mar seo a bheidh scríobha amháin i Gaelige (and if you don't understand that, you shouldn't have written the opening post).
 

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Cád é an Gaelige ar "Trolling"?

Ba chóir snáithe mar seo a bheidh scríobha amháin i Gaelige (and if you don't understand that, you shouldn't have written the opening post).
Cád é an Gaelige ar "Trolling"?

Taidhg Gaelach, go bhfios dom.
 

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Cád é an Gaelige ar "Trolling"?

Ba chóir snáithe mar seo a bheidh scríobha amháin i Gaelige (and if you don't understand that, you shouldn't have written the opening post).
If I want to post a thread in the Gaeilge forum I will do so - gan do chead nó do chomhairle.
 

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You are pathetic.
Im opposed to mass immigration, Im not opposed to race mixing per se though which would get me put in the Opposing Views section of Stormfront already. I hardly ever comment on the question of race but I have said clearly that I am opposed to biological racism. Windowshopper's idea that Im a Neo-Nazi I find more than strange; windowshopper lad where is this coming from?
 
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