The King of Israel

Fenian Boy

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Obviously, Donald Trump has always been a firm Zionist. It seems however, that he just keeps doubling down on his Zionism and Israel worship. He moved the embassy to Jerusalem, brought America to the brink of war with Iran, promised $38 billion in aid to the Jewish state, but still he hasn’t done enough for them. It’s gotten to the point where he can no longer attack his opponents within the Democratic Party without talking about how much they hate Israel, and by extension, all Jews. In the eyes of Trump, if you hate Israel then you hate America.

What exactly has Trump’s constant pandering to Israel achieved? I doubt it has increased his support among the American people. Ironically, it hasn’t even increased his support amongst American Jews - the majority of them still don’t support him. Trump evidently is frustrated by this, most recently on Twitter he shared a quote calling himself “the king of Israel” and lamenting the fact that American Jews still don’t like him. Hilariously the media has chosen to interpret Trump’s judaeophilia as anti-semitism. Perhaps if Trump spent more time focusing on issues that actually mattered to his base (like the long forgotten about WALL) his chances of re-election would be greater.
 


silverharp

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the Dems are the anti-semite party clearly
 

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No doubt some of this is the usual and so far futile attempt to gain Jewish votes by playing the Israel card. Most of the Democratic party's elected representatives are still uncritical of Israel, though there is a growing chasm on the issue within the grassroots as evidence by polls. There are also serious divisions within the Jewish grassroots when you look at polls on the settlements and Netanyahu himself. The official Jewish representative organisations like the AJC and ADL are not really picking this up, but at grassroots level it is clearly the case.
 

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If anybody seen an old man ranting and claiming he is the "chosen one" and "I am the king of Israel" they would take pity on him...while hoping he gets some much needed medical help for his psychiatric disorder.
 

Golah veNekhar

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Criticizing the actions of the state if Israel does not make someone an anti Semite.
What in your opinion does make someone an anti-Semite?
 

Golah veNekhar

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the Dems are the anti-semite party clearly
Maybe but it is not just deeply anti-Muslim but also deeply anti-Christian to oppose the right of return for indigenous Palestinians and their descendants who were ethnically in 1948. That right of return would kiss good bye to the Zionist colonial project.
 

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Weirdly the only place I've ever heard real anti-semitism being expressed is when working in the US.

Bit of a shock to hear it. From a southern belle, perhaps unsurprisingly.
 

silverharp

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Criticizing the actions of the state if Israel does not make someone an anti Semite.
Have the democrats disavowed Ilhan Omar? she is anti semitic
 

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Why wasn't this shown on American news channels?

UN Human Rights: Israel INTENTIONALLY murdered 189 Palestinians including children, the disabled, journalists, & paramedics—6,106 Palestinians injured by Israeli snipers

 

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I have had a twitter exchange with a fundamentalist American Trump supporter. I asked him where in the Scriptures it said the US President ie Trump is the "King of Israel". He bascially said he believed Trump was annointed by God!
 

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Well the good news there is that people who start to believe their own egos and begin to refer to that ego as the 'support of god' are seldom successful in their hopes in the end.

History is quite clear on this point.
 

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In terms of political philosophy anyone declaring they have mr god in their corner is effectively pointing to the distant cliff edge they will inevitably leap off at some stage with the somewhat fetching conviction that everything will be just fine and dandy.

The worst possible strategy is to follow them.
 

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Obviously, Donald Trump has always been a firm Zionist. It seems however, that he just keeps doubling down on his Zionism and Israel worship. He moved the embassy to Jerusalem, brought America to the brink of war with Iran, promised $38 billion in aid to the Jewish state, but still he hasn’t done enough for them. It’s gotten to the point where he can no longer attack his opponents within the Democratic Party without talking about how much they hate Israel, and by extension, all Jews. In the eyes of Trump, if you hate Israel then you hate America.

What exactly has Trump’s constant pandering to Israel achieved? I doubt it has increased his support among the American people. Ironically, it hasn’t even increased his support amongst American Jews - the majority of them still don’t support him. Trump evidently is frustrated by this, most recently on Twitter he shared a quote calling himself “the king of Israel” and lamenting the fact that American Jews still don’t like him. Hilariously the media has chosen to interpret Trump’s judaeophilia as anti-semitism. Perhaps if Trump spent more time focusing on issues that actually mattered to his base (like the long forgotten about WALL) his chances of re-election would be greater.
You don't get it.

Trump is above all pandering to the Christian Zionist vote - Evangelicals who believe that Israel must be re-established before Jesus can return, according to the Book of Revelation.

He absolutely needs the votes of this group to get re-elected. Hence, also, Trump's abandonment of his once "pro-choice" position on abortion for political expediency.

Many Evangelicals support Israel, but that can co-exist with a dislike of Jews, who are going to suffer a new Holocaust anyway, according to Christian prophecy. What's not to like?
 

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Heh. An advert for an 'israel bond' appears above this thread fairly often. Why wouldn't anyone be interested in the investment opportunity that comes with a state with a map on its Foreign Affairs Ministry wall with 'Greater Israel' on it, and a map shoing Damascus falling within the optimistically coloured in section.

Wonder what the deal is with the bond. 'You send us a set sum of money and our embassy sends you a template thank you letter with a second class stamp ion it. Thank you for not being anti-semitic today'.
 


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