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Majority of major party reps back idea to promote integration in Irish politics
Representatives of major political parties in the country are in favour of election quota for migrants, Metro Éireann has learned.

At a recent gathering of mainly migrant communities at the Department of Justice, almost all party representatives in a panel discussion agreed that such a quota could be modelled alongside that for women candidates.

Parties favour election Quota for migrants - Metro Eireann

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Party reps at the event included former Fine Gael local election candidate Adeola Ogunsina and Labour’s Senator Ivana Bacik, whose father migrated to Ireland from Czechoslovakia in the 1940s. Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin, the Green Party and the Social Democrats were also represented. Renua’s Jacqui Gilbourne was the only panelist to disagree with the migrant quota suggestion.

Well fair play to Renua!

This is another daft idea that undermines the democratic principle

We will be forced to vote for a pre selected panel of candidates whose only merit will that they are Migrants!

How could one vote for a Party that wants to control Migration?

- when a proportion of its candidates will themselves be Migrants!

I notice that the political parties supporting this are not exactly broadcasting their conversion to the General Public on this one either.

I wonder why....:confused:
 


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when the popular swell against colonisation begins, the mainstream parties will do a few cosmetic changes. In order to maintain their grip on power.


too little too late.

The mainstream parties in the UK never expected Brexit.

but if the bovine irish public just grumble into their beer glasses and do not vote for change, then its all headed the same way as UK, France, Sweden.
 
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when the popular swell against colonisation begins, the mainstream parties will do a few cosmetic changes.


too little too late.

The mainstream parties in the UK never expecte
It might be rather difficult for them to work out what the quotas will be

- seeing as they don't even know how many are here....
 

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Fair play to Renua.

My personal view is that this has not worked out well in the UK and France, where it seems to have fuelled Identity Politics.

Also, would one really want to be chosen based on race/gender, rather than on merits as seen by the voters?

I would also point out that there were no ministers at this meeting, which makes me highly doubtful it will happen. Not least because it would put de facto inherited family seats at risk.
 
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Fair play to Renua.

My personal view is that this has not worked out well in the UK and France, where it seems to have fuelled Identity Politics.

Also, would one really want to be chosen based on race/gender, rather than on merits as seen by the voters?
It will Backfire on the political Establishment if they try and push this one through
 

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It will Backfire on the political Establishment if they try and push this one through
Not if as your OP says ' The major political parties are in favor'.

This is the main downside of parliamentary democracy, when the political oligopoly checkmate us by gentleman's agreements in backrooms. Certain issues they are adamant about and are considered above the authority of us peasants. One of those is demographic transformation and multiculturalism.
 

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Not if as your OP says ' The major political parties are in favor'.

This is the main downside of parliamentary democracy, when the political oligopoly checkmate us by gentleman's agreements in backrooms. Certain issues they are adamant about and are considered above the authority of us peasants. One of those is demographic transformation and multiculturalism.
I dunno. I think its saying that the representatives of the parties that turned up were in favour except Renua. But Ivana Bacik, while a Senator, is hardly a very senior figure in Labour imho.
 

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So are we going to have 50/50 gender split, plus 10% of each 50% to represent female immigrants and 10% to represent male immigrants, thereby reducing white Irish male representation to 40%?

Same for the Seanad.
 

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can we force gender quotas' on feminist organisations ? say, 50:50 ?
 

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Majority of major party reps back idea to promote integration in Irish politics
Representatives of major political parties in the country are in favour of election quota for migrants, Metro Éireann has learned.

At a recent gathering of mainly migrant communities at the Department of Justice, almost all party representatives in a panel discussion agreed that such a quota could be modelled alongside that for women candidates.

Parties favour election Quota for migrants - Metro Eireann

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Party reps at the event included former Fine Gael local election candidate Adeola Ogunsina and Labour’s Senator Ivana Bacik, whose father migrated to Ireland from Czechoslovakia in the 1940s. Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin, the Green Party and the Social Democrats were also represented. Renua’s Jacqui Gilbourne was the only panelist to disagree with the migrant quota suggestion.

Well fair play to Renua!

This is another daft idea that undermines the democratic principle

We will be forced to vote for a pre selected panel of candidates whose only merit will that they are Migrants!

How could one vote for a Party that wants to control Migration?

- when a proportion of its candidates will themselves be Migrants!

I notice that the political parties supporting this are not exactly broadcasting their conversion to the General Public on this one either.

I wonder why....:confused:
the quota for women influences the amount of state funding the parties get its not an actual quota for women candidates, they don't have to comply
 

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Article title: Parties favour election quota for migrants

First line:Majority of major party reps back idea to promote integration in Irish politics

Wow! So SF, FF, Lab have all come out with manifesto or legislative backing for quotas? Or we've got some sort of poll of TDs and senators where they backed quotas?

Let's read on!
At a recent gathering of mainly migrant communities at the Department of Justice, almost all party representatives in a panel discussion agreed that such a quota could be modelled alongside that for women candidates.
Oh. So one person from each party said it was a good idea. And the only named attendees were immigrants or children of immigrants. Oh. And the 2 people name checked have never been elected to anything. Oh. And one of those people is serial loser Ivan Bacik who dammit is going to keep backing all quotas until she's eventually in the Dail. Oh.

Quality journalism. Should be proud of themselves.
 

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Another reason to keep our constitutional provisions intact.
It is all that saves the country from rule by criminal gangster politicians.
 

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Majority of major party reps back idea to promote integration in Irish politics
Representatives of major political parties in the country are in favour of election quota for migrants, Metro Éireann has learned.

At a recent gathering of mainly migrant communities at the Department of Justice, almost all party representatives in a panel discussion agreed that such a quota could be modelled alongside that for women candidates.

Parties favour election Quota for migrants - Metro Eireann

More:
Party reps at the event included former Fine Gael local election candidate Adeola Ogunsina and Labour’s Senator Ivana Bacik, whose father migrated to Ireland from Czechoslovakia in the 1940s. Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin, the Green Party and the Social Democrats were also represented. Renua’s Jacqui Gilbourne was the only panelist to disagree with the migrant quota suggestion.

Well fair play to Renua!

This is another daft idea that undermines the democratic principle

We will be forced to vote for a pre selected panel of candidates whose only merit will that they are Migrants!

How could one vote for a Party that wants to control Migration?

- when a proportion of its candidates will themselves be Migrants!

I notice that the political parties supporting this are not exactly broadcasting their conversion to the General Public on this one either.

I wonder why....:confused:
We will be forced to vote for a pre selected panel of candidates whose only merit will that they are Migrants!
That seems to be somewhat disingenuous (probably deliberately so reflecting your anti migrant viewpoint) reading of what's proposed. One would imagine if it were to happen (it won't) it would look like the gender quotas. Secondly you are not 'forced' to vote for any one so drop the hyperbole.
 

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That seems to be somewhat disingenuous (probably deliberately so reflecting your anti migrant viewpoint) reading of what's proposed. One would imagine if it were to happen (it won't) it would look like the gender quotas. Secondly you are not 'forced' to vote for any one so drop the hyperbole.
Many parties run more than one candidate in a Constituency - eg 'Vote 1,2,3' for FF/FG etc

If you as a supporter of said Party do so and Migrant Quotas are in place then to comply with their wishes you could well be voting for a specific Migrant candidate against the grain as it were...
 

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Article title: Parties favour election quota for migrants

First line:Majority of major party reps back idea to promote integration in Irish politics

Wow! So SF, FF, Lab have all come out with manifesto or legislative backing for quotas? Or we've got some sort of poll of TDs and senators where they backed quotas?

Let's read on!


Oh. So one person from each party said it was a good idea. And the only named attendees were immigrants or children of immigrants. Oh. And the 2 people name checked have never been elected to anything. Oh. And one of those people is serial loser Ivan Bacik who dammit is going to keep backing all quotas until she's eventually in the Dail. Oh.

Quality journalism. Should be proud of themselves.
Those in attendance were there in an official capacity as representatives of their respective political parties

- if they had said or committed their Parties to any course of action at variance with Party policy

- then we would have heard about it by now

Fact is all these Parties do support quotas for Migrants.
 
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We badly need an anti immigration party in this country. I want Ireland to remain Ireland in 30 years time not something akin to downtown Lagos. The multicultural terrorists must not be allowed destroy us.
 

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We badly need an anti immigration party in this country. I want Ireland to remain Ireland in 30 years time not something akin to downtown Lagos. The multicultural terrorists must not be allowed destroy us.
You should check out the National Party so....

https://www.nationalparty.ie/
 

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Many parties run more than one candidate in a Constituency - eg 'Vote 1,2,3' for FF/FG etc

If you as a supporter of said Party do so and Migrant Quotas are in place then to comply with their wishes you could well be voting for a specific Migrant candidate against the grain as it were...
Yes but AGAIN you can choose not to vote for one of the candidates if you don't wish to - that often happens, that said if you are a strong supporter of a party one might ask why you wouldn't vote for a candidate simply because their immigration status.
 

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Yes but AGAIN you can choose not to vote for one of the candidates if you don't wish to - that often happens, that said if you are a strong supporter of a party one might ask why you wouldn't vote for a candidate simply because their immigration status.
Because inevitably immigrant candidates are going to focus on the needs and desires of the immigrants

- and not on those of the Irish People....
 


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