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The Myth Of Unionist Demographic Decline




Ant贸in Mac Comh谩in

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Since when have the Greens been an Irish Republican Party?
The fundamental principles of the politics of the Green Party, fit like a hand in a glove with the primary tenets of Irish Republicanism and National Independence, to such a degree they don't require formal acknowledgement, and the end result of the process of participatory democracy, is a healthier environment, more-so in a Socialist society, and the former are prerequisites of the latter.
 

Ant贸in Mac Comh谩in

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One thing for certain, they are not unionists supporters, the burning of toxic materials and bonfires is the clue馃槀馃槀馃槀
In 1600, 98% of Ireland was covered in forestry, but Colonialism has rarely been viewed through the lens of environmentalism or reforestation. Now, I don't mean rewinding the clock 400 years when I suggest that Ireland needs to be re-greened, but it's an aspect of the reconquest struggle that has always been severely overlooked.
 

Newrybhoy

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In 1600, 98% of Ireland was covered in forestry, but Colonialism has rarely been viewed through the lens of environmentalism or reforestation. Now, I don't mean rewinding the clock 400 years when I suggest that Ireland needs to be re-greened, but it's an aspect of the reconquest struggle that has always been severely overlooked.
I suggest you have a look at bord peat briquettes and have a word with them.
 

raetsel

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The fundamental principles of the politics of the Green Party, fit like a hand in a glove with the primary tenets of Irish Republicanism and National Independence, to such a degree they don't require formal acknowledgement, and the end result of the process of participatory democracy, is a healthier environment, more-so in a Socialist society, and the former are prerequisites of the latter.
NI green voters are not hugely committed to the cause of a united Ireland. But they are even less committed to the union with the UK. The majority lean SDLP rather than SF.
The evidence from opinion polls and voting transfer analysis bears this out.
 

Roll_On

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Since when have the Greens been an Irish Republican Party?
You needn't be a republican to want to remove the flag, you only need to be a nationalist, or a neutral. Alliance had an interest in coming up with a compromise, i.e. designated days. Nationalists no longer require Alliance support to make changes in Belfast though, they only need to convince 4 green party members to vote with them.
 

Newrybhoy

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You needn't be a republican to want to remove the flag, you only need to be a nationalist, or a neutral. Alliance had an interest in coming up with a compromise, i.e. designated days. Nationalists no longer require Alliance support to make changes in Belfast though, they only need to convince 4 green party members to vote with them.
So do you think that the Greens, all elected in unionist areas, are going to want to be seen to side with SF/IRA?

Or do you think they will remain neutral on everything but environmental issues?
 

Roll_On

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So do you think that the Greens, all elected in unionist areas, are going to want to be seen to side with SF/IRA?

Or do you think they will remain neutral on everything but environmental issues?
Are you saying that the green party is elected by unionists? stop. please.
 

Newrybhoy

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Are you saying that the green party is elected by unionists? stop. please.
No I'm not. I'm saying they are gaining the support to get elected from unionist areas, where soft unionists are voting Alliance and Green as they have no problems with SF in those areas.

No way are Greens from North Down and East Belfast going to support SF in sectarian policies.
 

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No I'm not. I'm saying they are gaining the support to get elected from unionist areas, where soft unionists are voting Alliance and Green as they have no problems with SF in those areas.

No way are Greens from North Down and East Belfast going to support SF in sectarian policies.
Are any of the 4 green councillors in Belfast City Council elected in North Down or East Belfast? answers on a stamp please.

REmoving the fleg is anti-sectarian, putting it up in the first place is sectarian, it's celebrating the culture of one community over the other on public buildings. There are no tri-colours flying on any days.
 

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Are any of the 4 green councillors in Belfast City Council elected in North Down or East Belfast? answers on a stamp please.

REmoving the fleg is anti-sectarian, putting it up in the first place is sectarian, it's celebrating the culture of one community over the other on public buildings. There are no tri-colours flying on any days.
Eh, yeah, 2 from east Belfast. Seriously doubt if either the greens or sdlp would want to reopen the flags issue, it's sorted, move on.
 

Paddyc

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Eh, yeah, 2 from east Belfast. Seriously doubt if either the greens or sdlp would want to reopen the flags issue, it's sorted, move on.
I would agree.

An effective compromise was reached and the idea of spending time on this non-issue when there are so many issues for the Greens to get their teeth into (toxic waste on bonfires....) is a non starter.
 

McSlaggart

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Eh, yeah, 2 from east Belfast. Seriously doubt if either the greens or sdlp would want to reopen the flags issue, it's sorted, move on.

The issue of flags on public property does at a local level raise a lot of issues. For a simple example its an issue if an Nationalist takes down an Irish flag that someone has left up on public property.
 

Mickeymac

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The issue of flags on public property does at a local level raise a lot of issues. For a simple example its an issue if an Nationalist takes down an Irish flag that someone has left up on public property.

You have read the unionist response to such contentious issues McS as have I..........IT鈥檚 Sorted .....Move on.

Pathetic and naive in the extreme sir and gives us some insight as to their attitude to peace/justice and equality for ALL.
 

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This is quite stark for unionism and the next assembly election will only be worse for unionism. It's interesting times alright, what are unionists going to do?
The pan nationalist front got 37%.

Also Alliance is Unionist. They take the Lim Dem whip in London when they have an MP.
 

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It's an all over Europe and the UK party I believe.

In unaware that they have any position in Irish unification.
Not really. The Scottish Green Party is different from the English / Welsh version & has different policies in relation to Scottish independence etc.
 

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This must be the 500th time on here you have established the fact you are anything BUT a PBP voter馃槀
Care to address either point I made ghetto boy?
 

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