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The power of the media

shiel

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The brexit from the EU is an example of the power of the media.

Most British media supported brexit.

It was the same when most Irish media supported the one party state we had during the celtic tiger era which ended bankrupting both the country and the financial system.

It was the same when most of the Irish media supported the anti-austerity campaign after the collapse.

It will be the same when most of the Irish media will again support the celtic tiger one-party-state government at the next election.
 


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The brexit from the EU is an example of the power of the media.

Most British media supported brexit.

It was the same when most Irish media supported the one party state we had during the celtic tiger era which ended bankrupting both the country and the financial system.

It was the same when most of the Irish media supported the anti-austerity campaign after the collapse.

It will be the same when most of the Irish media will again support the celtic tiger one-party-state government at the next election.
The media doesn't have the power you (or they) imagine.

It responds to events and reflects the prejudices of its target audience along with those of its advertisers. Look at The Sun; it has swung between Labour and Conservative over the years and has generally supported the winners at GE's, but they haven't swung the elections - they were merely responding to what they could see happening.
 

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A good deal of the British press supported remain, and, in fairness, some such as the Telegraph and the Spectator that did go for 'leave' provide balanced debate on the matter. If anything, it was publications such as 'The Guardian' that were entirely unbalanced in favour of 'remain' and did so in terms that sought to demonise those plebs that dared to think to vote 'leave': this latter attitude, not only an aspect of 'The Guardian' but also much of the elite in UK society (political, media, and academic), did much to drive a lot of (for shorthand I'll call them) the working class towards Brexit.
 

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Sheil's Single Transferrable Post?
In fairness, there's around five different posts that he just posts over and over again.
 

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The media has always been powerful but I think in this case they were reacting to polls. Richard Desmond and Murdoch's newspapers hedged their bets by supporting different sides.

I think the internet is becoming more important as a counterbalance to globalist intellectuals. But I think without the Eurosceptic press it would have been defeated. In Ireland a referendum would be very tough because we haven't had Islamist terror attacks and the globalist intellectuals control the entire media.
 
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shiel

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In fairness, there's around five different posts that he just posts over and over again.
I cannot help it if the rest of you are in denial about your own helplessness in the face of propaganda from an all powerful media which determines public opinion.

Why do you think billions are spent on brain dead ads all day every day?

They influence us in our money spending behaviour.

Ignoring reality is not a good idea.
 

Prester Jim

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More of a backlash against the patronising BS that the less well off have had to put up with from almost every interest group for the powerful and rich for the recent past.
They have been left behind and they object to being told they have no right to complain about it.
The EU should learn and recallibrate itself so that its primary purpose is the welfare of its citizens on the whole rather then the corporate and political elites.
 

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I cannot help it if the rest of you are in denial about your own helplessness in the face of propaganda from an all powerful media which determines public opinion.

Why do you think billions are spent on brain dead ads all day every day?

They influence us in our money spending behaviour.

Ignoring reality is not a good idea.
Speak for yourself.

What if one rarely watches TV, for the simple reason that there is little on it worth watching.

And only then, one records a programme to watch later, to fast forward through the ads.

What if one understands the fairly obvious agenda of each media outlet, and takes the news from a good cross-section of them, and then processes what they all say accordingly.

It's not rocket science.

It's quite easy to ignore what seems to be reality for you and many others.

Try it.

It's a really good idea.
 

shiel

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Speak for yourself.

What if one rarely watches TV, for the simple reason that there is little on it worth watching.

And only then, one records a programme to watch later, to fast forward through the ads.

What if one understands the fairly obvious agenda of each media outlet, and takes the news from a good cross-section of them, and then processes what they all say accordingly.

It's not rocket science.

It's quite easy to ignore what seems to be reality for you and many others.

Try it.

It's a really good idea.
What you and I do is our own business.

But what the influence of mass media including the internet media is cannot be denied.

In the living room, on the street most of us are glued to it.

It is a powerful opinion forming institution.

Billions are spent by the politically and financially powerful to influence our opinions and actions.

It would not be spent if it did not have an effect.
 

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The media doesn't have the power you (or they) imagine.

It responds to events and reflects the prejudices of its target audience along with those of its advertisers. Look at The Sun; it has swung between Labour and Conservative over the years and has generally supported the winners at GE's, but they haven't swung the elections - they were merely responding to what they could see happening.

I don't think the media have the power to dictate a result.
But the likes of the 'SUN' and the 'MAIL' have spent years pandering to, encouraging, promoting, helping, and just basically wanting this outcome.
They've got what they've wanted, so, for all the UKs ills from here on in, who do they blame now?
 

dammit_im_mad

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Speak for yourself.

What if one rarely watches TV, for the simple reason that there is little on it worth watching.

And only then, one records a programme to watch later, to fast forward through the ads.

What if one understands the fairly obvious agenda of each media outlet, and takes the news from a good cross-section of them, and then processes what they all say accordingly.

It's not rocket science.

It's quite easy to ignore what seems to be reality for you and many others.

Try it.

It's a really good idea.

You're in a minority ST

Most people are in the thrall of a bath of propaganda that immerses them 24/7

BREXIT only won by 4% remember. 48% of the UK population
still fell for the remain fascist propaganda
 

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A good deal of the British press supported remain, and, in fairness, some such as the Telegraph and the Spectator that did go for 'leave' provide balanced debate on the matter. If anything, it was publications such as 'The Guardian' that were entirely unbalanced in favour of 'remain' and did so in terms that sought to demonise those plebs that dared to think to vote 'leave': this latter attitude, not only an aspect of 'The Guardian' but also much of the elite in UK society (political, media, and academic), did much to drive a lot of (for shorthand I'll call them) the working class towards Brexit.
This is a lesson the US Dems need to learn very quickly.
 

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Speak for yourself.

What if one rarely watches TV, for the simple reason that there is little on it worth watching.

And only then, one records a programme to watch later, to fast forward through the ads.

What if one understands the fairly obvious agenda of each media outlet, and takes the news from a good cross-section of them, and then processes what they all say accordingly.

It's not rocket science.

It's quite easy to ignore what seems to be reality for you and many others.

Try it.

It's a really good idea.
Have to agree with you.
The only media I use is social media these days.
Anything by INM I refuse to read or listen to.
 

shiel

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Have to agree with you.
The only media I use is social media these days.
Anything by INM I refuse to read or listen to.
Social media is just as manipulative as conventional media with even more brain dead ************************e spewing out.
 

Barna

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Social media is just as manipulative as conventional media with even more brain dead ************************e spewing out.
What is your suggestion as to how people should receive news and interpret it?
 

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A good deal of the British press supported remain, and, in fairness, some such as the Telegraph and the Spectator that did go for 'leave' provide balanced debate on the matter. If anything, it was publications such as 'The Guardian' that were entirely unbalanced in favour of 'remain' and did so in terms that sought to demonise those plebs that dared to think to vote 'leave': this latter attitude, not only an aspect of 'The Guardian' but also much of the elite in UK society (political, media, and academic), did much to drive a lot of (for shorthand I'll call them) the working class towards Brexit.
Watched Will Self on C4 news , such a focking conceited, arrogant, spoiled streak of p1ss,, he basically called all Brexit voters racist little morons, the rest of the C4 news team did a bang up job calling an ordinary fishmonger a racist and portraying Brexit voters as redneck, backward working class scum,,

The more they delude themselves in their trendy liberal bubble in Notting Hill and ignore reality the more times they will keep getting it wrong, just like all the Irish knobjockeys working in the media.They really should not comment without doing their research and spend time in the places they type about.

Just watched BBC and they did exactly the same, made out native working class British as scum and praised the Polish workers (no problem with Polish workers whatsoever ) but it was very sneaky and biased, of course they would never, ever show the real reason for Brexit, the bad immigration, the very costly and non-integrating immigration, the house prices and shortages, the many more trying their chances in Calais and beyond.

The media is a fooking disgrace, ,
 
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