The return of Tony Blair

katsung47

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934. Trump, Bush and the return of Tony Blair(11/23/2016)

The president election of 2016 is similar to the 2000 one. Both were rigged to escort the puppets of the Feds to take the president seat. I say so because both happened under the term of Democrat's regime and the economy are pretty well too. In 2000, Bill Clinton left with a rare budget surplus for next president. Barak Obama has having a nice employment rate - 5%. There is hardly a reason to change the ruling party. Yet the Feds have other purpose and they control the election, So we saw the controversial events. To create unreasonable victory of the campaign, they had to make it a tied one. Bush won the election on the controversial Florida votes which depended on the decision of Supreme Court. Trump won a controversial election which caused countrywide protests, the Feds later have to say Hillary Clinton won popular votes to comfort people. They manipulate the voting number at their convenience.

They did so because they had big plan plotted already. The two election also got everything ready for the puppet president to carry out their mission. That is the full control of the Senate and the House. The plan would pass easily in legislative - both controlled by Republican Party. Now we know for Bush's job it was war in Mid-East and 9/11 attack. What will it be for Donald Trump? Here is a news when Trump is interviewing the candidate of his cabinet.

Eurosceptics welcome Tony Blair's political comeback and Brexit intervention

Laura Hughes 21 NOVEMBER 2016

Tony Blair’s plan to make a comeback to political life by spearheading an anti-Brexit group was last night welcomed by Eurosceptics who said it would increase public support for leaving the EU.



Eurosceptics welcome Tony Blair's political comeback and Brexit intervention 
Tony Blair is notorious for his role in Iraq war. Does this mean there will be another war- on Syria, or on Iran? Or another style of war- to split Euro zone?

When they say it's those "low educated white people" who lost their jobs voted Trump to his president seat, do you feel the conflict of that this is the time of full employment (5% unemployment rate)?

Stand high to see these two president elections (2000, 2016) with the return of Tony Blair, you may see how the Feds manipulate the election to chose politicians to control this world.
 


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Political dead man walking.

The stench of the Iraq War and all that has unfolded since in that region clings to this man for the remainder of his days in this life.
 

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Who are the Feds? FBI?
 

RasherHash

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Why isn't this cünt in a war crimes tribunal?
 

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Stand high to see these two president elections (2000, 2016) with the return of Tony Blair, you may see how the Feds manipulate the election to chose politicians to control this world.
Zoo please
 

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Tony Blair’s plan to make a comeback to political life by spearheading an anti-Brexit group
Will he be able to redeem himself? Certainly we are in an hour of need.

I would say he was correct in a lot of what he thought and stood for. e.g. The Blair Doctrine | PBS NewsHour

But unfortunately politics got the better of him. E.g. Imho he ought not have tried to build democratic consent for doing what needed to be done in the middle east as it stymied the unblinking realism in military matters that was needed to intervene effectively. - We saw for example how that lack of realism eventually lead to the many proxies of Iran being activated in Iraq like Muqtada al-Sadr, the sectarian Shi'ite death squads, the Mahdi Army, the Badr Shi'ite militia, the mass murdering Shia cleric Zarqawi, and so on. That turned the country into a maelstrom of death and destruction, and acted to foment its opposite, Al Qaida in Iraq, which eventually evolved into ISIS.

An utter disaster, no doubt. But I think he he deserves a chance to try and bring those lessons to the table and help to turn the world away from its current headlong rush over the cliff. No doubt this is an unpopular opinion to hold in the current atmosphere.
 

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We should bring back Charlie Haughey. I know he's dead but that should not be an obstacle. Blair is also dead; it's just his ego that doesn't realise it.
 

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Will he be able to redeem himself? Certainly we are in an hour of need.

I would say he was correct in a lot of what he thought and stood for. e.g. The Blair Doctrine | PBS NewsHour

But unfortunately politics got the better of him. E.g. Imho he ought not have tried to build democratic consent for doing what needed to be done in the middle east as it stymied the unblinking realism in military matters that was needed to intervene effectively. - We saw for example how that lack of realism eventually lead to the many proxies of Iran being activated in Iraq like Muqtada al-Sadr, the sectarian Shi'ite death squads, the Mahdi Army, the Badr Shi'ite militia, the mass murdering Shia cleric Zarqawi, and so on. That turned the country into a maelstrom of death and destruction, and acted to foment its opposite, Al Qaida in Iraq, which eventually evolved into ISIS.

An utter disaster, no doubt. But I think he he deserves a chance to try and bring those lessons to the table and help to turn the world away from its current headlong rush over the cliff. No doubt this is an unpopular opinion to hold in the current atmosphere.
Who better to fix the middle East than the guy who broke it and wont take responsibility for breaking it.
 

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Will he be able to redeem himself? Certainly we are in an hour of need.

I would say he was correct in a lot of what he thought and stood for. e.g. The Blair Doctrine | PBS NewsHour

But unfortunately politics got the better of him. E.g. Imho he ought not have tried to build democratic consent for doing what needed to be done in the middle east as it stymied the unblinking realism in military matters that was needed to intervene effectively. - We saw for example how that lack of realism eventually lead to the many proxies of Iran being activated in Iraq like Muqtada al-Sadr, the sectarian Shi'ite death squads, the Mahdi Army, the Badr Shi'ite militia, the mass murdering Shia cleric Zarqawi, and so on. That turned the country into a maelstrom of death and destruction, and acted to foment its opposite, Al Qaida in Iraq, which eventually evolved into ISIS.

An utter disaster, no doubt. But I think he he deserves a chance to try and bring those lessons to the table and help to turn the world away from its current headlong rush over the cliff. No doubt this is an unpopular opinion to hold in the current atmosphere.
Considering the thousands of people who died because of Blair's "utter disaster" he deserves nothing except the gallows
 

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Why are people frothing at the contents of a rambling, barely coherent, stream of stream of consciousness OP?

This OP is completely fact free. It is literally the stream of consciousness meanderings of one of the sites less stable minds, Trump employing Bush & Blair, think about it & get a grip.

As for the Telegraph - it is a paragraph that offers no sources, no facts, nothing. It's filler.

P.ie posters become more animated at Telegraph & Mail sensationalism than most Tories :roll:
 
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We should bring back Charlie Haughey. I know he's dead but that should not be an obstacle. Blair is also dead; it's just his ego that doesn't realise it.
To quote Andy Zaltzman - "God rest his soul. Should it ever be found..."
 

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He's back like a bad smell. The man's a globalist, neo-con war criminal.
 

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Considering the thousands of people who died because of Blair's "utter disaster" he deserves nothing except the gallows
Ah, one of the many judges, jury and executioners of the mob make another cry out for righteous retribution!

Pay no heed to intent! On either side! Too complex!

Pay no heed to the 50,000 to 182,000 Kurds and 25,000 to 280,000 killed by Saddam during the repression of the 1991 rebellion!

Pay no heed to the widespread use of chemical weapons by a government against its own citizens and systematic disregard for what we know as the rules of warfare during the Iran-Iraq war, by Saddam's regime!

Instead, let us send to "the gallows" the man who thought it was immoral within the reality of US sole superpower status, in the face of mass human suffering under this dictator, the man who thought that it was necessary show readiness to shoulder burdens and responsibilities for the wider world...


[video=youtube;dX0Pish3-Ac]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX0Pish3-Ac[/video]
 

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Ah, one of the many judges, jury and executioners of the mob make another cry out for righteous retribution!

Pay no heed to intent! On either side! Too complex!

Pay no heed to the 50,000 to 182,000 Kurds and 25,000 to 280,000 killed by Saddam during the repression of the 1991 rebellion!

Pay no heed to the widespread use of chemical weapons by a government against its own citizens and systematic disregard for what we know as the rules of warfare during the Iran-Iraq war, by Saddam's regime!

Instead, let us send to "the gallows" the man who thought it was immoral within the reality of US sole superpower status, in the face of mass human suffering under this dictator, the man who thought that it was necessary show readiness to shoulder burdens and responsibilities for the wider world...


[video=youtube;dX0Pish3-Ac]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX0Pish3-Ac[/video]

Why am I not surprised that you hero worship this servant of the Israeli regime and who was
considerably enriched for doing it's bidding
 

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He's back like a bad smell. The man's a globalist, neo-con war criminal.
I have found reading some contributors lately that the above term for this "group" of people in mind is often just a modern substitute for the "perfidious Jew". Or for what in the twentieth century were called "internationalist Jewry".

So let's just briefly outline what exactly is a "neo-con".

While it is a political philosophy and movement consisting of a wide spectrum of thought, I think what most people are concerned with is its outlook in military matters. - In this regard, its key tenet is "realism".

(a) the (neo-con) philosophy acknowledges the reality that the US is the foremost world power and thus it has a responsibility as this power to deal with threats that arise in a world that is increasingly interconnected and interdependent.

(b) the philosophy acknowledges the reality that the US is in possession of an unrivaled military force. And when there is a last resort need to use it, it should always be wielded in a manner that is decisive, effective, overwhelming and successful. That way you only have to use it once, and despots will not try to 'play' games, and so on.

(c) the philosophy holds that it is morally irresponsible to turn ones backs on conflicts and the violation of human rights within other countries as the world's foremost power. Further, that domestic problems are often caused on the other side of the world. Financial instability in Asia destroys jobs at home. Poverty in South America means more drugs on their streets. Conflicts cause more refugees that cause downstream problems. And so on.

The fact that certain individuals think this way does not mean they are "evil" or "criminals". No one is saying they are in possession of the whole truth. Just as other ways of thinking should not claim to be in possession of the whole truth either.

Point is though, in a democracy, they have a view that is worth considering as a part of dealing with the challenges that face us today.

The above is all that is in this "neo con" demonisation, really.
 

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Look at the legacy of this scumbag. Permanent war in the middle east and a humanitarian catastrophe which has spilled over into Europe, refugee crisis etc.

It's amazing he has the temerity to show his face in public after what he's done.
 

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Look at the legacy of this scumbag. Permanent war in the middle east and a humanitarian catastrophe which has spilled over into Europe, refugee crisis etc.

It's amazing he has the temerity to show his face in public after what he's done.
You're saying it's all his fault?

Just Blair and of course his Israeli puppet masters and I suppose the great Satan, the US?


PS - Is it not just amazing that this whole demented narrative is nearly the exact same as much of this, written back in the 1970's and 80's?
 

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The butcher of Baghdad. Blair is partly responsible for all the terrorism we are now suffering.
 


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