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The rise of Anti-Semitism in Germany

tsarbomb

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You agree that it was a colonial project so.
Nope. Nothing colonial about it.

It's interesting to see you struggle in separating Judaism from Zionism. The two things are connected and quite a bit of the hostility towards Jews in modern day Germany is carried out under the cover of criticism of Zionism.
 


brughahaha

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Wrong!

Late nineteenth century Zionism built on a preexisting Jewish attachment to the Holy Land. It didn't begin it.
Pure historically ignorant tripe ..the whole nation of statehood or the nation state , only began at earliest after the French revolution ...yet you claim its been an intrinsic part of Judaism for 2000 years
Try Again ....because so far your zero for three :rolleyes:
 

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Pure historically ignorant tripe ..the whole nation of statehood or the nation state , only began at earliest after the French revolution ...yet you claim its been an intrinsic part of Judaism for 2000 years
Try Again ....because so far your zero for three :rolleyes:
Haha!

You're obviously frustrated that your assertion that Jewish attachment to the land of Israel only began in the late nineteenth century has been shown to be rubbish.

Now you're claiming that nations only sprang from the time of the French Revolution? Really? Nations have existed for almost all of recorded history and have been written about extensively. Here's one example from over 1,000 years before Danton and Robespierre got up to mischief.

"A nation (gens) is a number of people sharing a single origin, or distinguished from another nation (natio) in accordance with its own grouping, as the ‘nations’ of Greece or of Asia Minor. From this comes the term ‘shared heritage’ (gentilitas). The word gens is also so called on account of the generations (generatio) of families, that is from ‘begetting’ (gignere, ppl. genitus), as the term ‘nation’ (natio) comes from ‘being born’ (nasci, ppl. natus). " Isidore of Seville

 

Golah veNekhar

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Nope. Nothing colonial about it.

It's interesting to see you struggle in separating Judaism from Zionism. The two things are connected and quite a bit of the hostility towards Jews in modern day Germany is carried out under the cover of criticism of Zionism.
Jacobtinsky and Herzl were pretty open about the colonial nature of the Zionist movement and I think they would no a bit more about it than some gobshyte paddy.

Before World War not just the vast majority of Orthodox Rabbis but also the Reform movement were very strongly opposed to Zionism. Rabbinic Judaism if you knew about you would know that it has had to radically change itself in order to incorporate Zionism. From the stand point of Classical Rabbinic Judaism the Zionist movement is incredibly heretical which is why you still have all these Litvish and Satmar Hassidim who fanatically anti-Zionist.

Given all the horrific effects that Zionism has had on Jews I would Paddies supporting it because they like to fantasize about killing Muslims are being objectively immensely anti-Semitic. For instance before Zionism rape was the crime Jews were least likely to commit but now rape culture is completely out of control among Jews in Palestine with the vast majority of the victims being Jewesses. So by supporting Zionism you are basically saying that Jewesses being raped is perfectly fine with you- that right there is utterly sick anti-Semitism.

 

tsarbomb

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Jacobtinsky and Herzl were pretty open about the colonial nature of the Zionist movement and I think they would no a bit more about it than some gobshyte paddy.

Before World War not just the vast majority of Orthodox Rabbis but also the Reform movement were very strongly opposed to Zionism. Rabbinic Judaism if you knew about you would know that it has had to radically change itself in order to incorporate Zionism. From the stand point of Classical Rabbinic Judaism the Zionist movement is incredibly heretical which is why you still have all these Litvish and Satmar Hassidim who fanatically anti-Zionist.

Given all the horrific effects that Zionism has had on Jews I would Paddies supporting it because they like to fantasize about killing Muslims are being objectively immensely anti-Semitic. For instance before Zionism rape was the crime Jews were least likely to commit but now rape culture is completely out of control among Jews in Palestine with the vast majority of the victims being Jewesses. So by supporting Zionism you are basically saying that Jewesses being raped is perfectly fine with you- that right there is utterly sick anti-Semitism.

You shouldn't call someone a gobshyte if you don't know the difference between `no' and `know`. :)
 

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Looks like it's Muslims that are the source of this hatred of Jewish people.
And yet MSM want to pin it on a few headbanger Nazis. The way Jews are being treated by Muslims throughout Europe is the elephant in the room that MSM wants to ignore.
 

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In any civilised society, being resident descendents of ethnic groups living somewhere for 100 years would entitled you to citizenship. Myanmar of course disagrees and Israel invited them to an arms fair recently. But in any case - that area had hardly any Jews during the Ottoman period and probably since before the Muslim conquest there, other than perhaps Galilee. The Romans and Byzantines had expelled or killed them.
Where do you get your figures from ? One minute it's " everybody lived together peacefully under the Ottomans " and the next it's " there were hardly any Jews in Ottoman Palestine ".
 

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Where do you get your figures from ? One minute it's " everybody lived together peacefully under the Ottomans " and the next it's " there were hardly any Jews in Ottoman Palestine ".
In the 16th century, Sergio dellaPergolo's research (2001) suggests just 5000 Jews there, 6000 Christians and 145,000 Muslims. Avi-Jonah believes that in 614, the Jewish population declined to 10-15%. So they were already a small minority before the Turks and Arabs came.
 

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Where do you get your figures from ? One minute it's " everybody lived together peacefully under the Ottomans " and the next it's " there were hardly any Jews in Ottoman Palestine ".
Suffering Jesus , is there no end to your ignorance ...you do realise that those 2 statements arent even remotely mutually exclusive ......

They lived together peacefully
There weren't many "x" but they lived together peacefully

Nothing Nada Zero contradictory in it :rolleyes:

Maybe if you werent continuously contorted into a bigoted rage in your efforts to find something about Palestinian supporters to get outraged about ....you might be able to read basic simple English without making a fool of yourself
 

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Where do you get your figures from ? One minute it's " everybody lived together peacefully under the Ottomans " and the next it's " there were hardly any Jews in Ottoman Palestine ".
They were a small minority. In 1920, the British Government's Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine stated the following:

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews.
 

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Suffering Jesus , is there no end to your ignorance ...you do realise that those 2 statements arent even remotely mutually exclusive ......

They lived together peacefully
There weren't many "x" but they lived together peacefully

Nothing Nada Zero contradictory in it :rolleyes:

Maybe if you werent continuously contorted into a bigoted rage in your efforts to find something about Palestinian supporters to get outraged about ....you might be able to read basic simple English without making a fool of yourself
Usually small minorities accepting their dhimmi status are more likely to live at peace than larger minorities who are likely to kick against it.
 

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And yet MSM want to pin it on a few headbanger Nazis. The way Jews are being treated by Muslims throughout Europe is the elephant in the room that MSM wants to ignore.
Because, you know, muslims run Yurrop and have anti-jewish laws there.
Or was that every christian state from the middle ages onwards, up until the 19th century and in some cases into the 20th century?
 

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Let the Palestinians take care of their wounded. Israel has no obligations towrds people who get injured attacking them.,
The zionazis keep bombing their hospitals.
 

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