The RUC and the UDR Four case.

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https://www.thesun.ie/news/1320530/former-udr-mans-campaign-to-clear-name-as-tapes-locked-away-for-over-quarter-of-a-century-reveal-claims-soldier-was-jailed-for-15-years-on-fabricated-evidence/
TAPES locked away for over quarter of a century reveal claims a soldier was jailed for 15 years on fabricated evidence.

Recordings passed to The Sun feature the key witness in the murder case alleging she was misinformed by RUC officers and told to sign blank pages.
In 1992, three of the four soldiers, Noel Bell, Winston Allen, James Hagan, serving a 14-year minimum, were freed on appeal. It was a blow to the credibility of the RUC at the time. Yet a
fourth soldier, Neil Latimer, who claimed he was three miles away at the time, was said to have pulled the trigger and was never acquitted.

He spent 15 years behind bars for a murder that he insists he did not commit.

Latimer, 53, is now set to relaunch a bid to clear his name and tapes handed to this newspaper are set to play a key role.
Considering that RUC officers and UDR soldiers were armed uniformed servants of the Crown who were constantly under attack in the 1970s and 1980s, why were the RUC detectives involved in the "UDR Four" case willing to throw their supposed brothers-in-arms in the UDR under a bus (so to speak)?
 


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Let us say, hypothetically, that a sectarian paramilitary "police force" was working closely with a sectarian paramilitary non-police force death squad.
And that the latter carried out a sectarian murder.

And, equally hypothetically, that another sectarian paramilitary regiment was populated by, well, boys who might like a drink and a gamble and be hard to discipline and yet by virtue of their position were owed a wage and eventually pension.

Well, how better to shield the death squad from scrutiny than throw in front of the lights the boys who were hard to discipline. (And save on the wages and pension).

Hypothetically.
 

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The above is Johnson ( Jonty ) Brown he was a RUC Detective Sergeant when asked who did he fear most the IRA or RUC Special Branch he said the Special Branch. These were people who would throw their grannies under the bus if it suited them, they followed no rules.
 

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The above is Johnson ( Jonty ) Brown he was a RUC Detective Sergeant when asked who did he fear most the IRA or RUC Special Branch he said the Special Branch. These were people who would throw their grannies under the bus if it suited them, they followed no rules.
He has spoken out about collusion for many years since he left the police service.

By the way, he looks like David Suchet.
 

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BUT BUT BUT according to Unionism and the British/Irish media the RUC were wonderful people and accusations of underhand dealings are just Republican propaganda. Sorry Unionists cannot have it both ways. After decades of burying their heads and refusing to accept that there were indeed nefarious RUC antics they just can't start spouting about these UDR men. For Unionism it's a case of the boy who cried wolf.
 

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we will never know all of the collusion /backstabbing/ informers who went under the guise of the RUC
 

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Unionists only recognise there is collusion when it happens to one of their own.
 

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https://www.thesun.ie/news/1320530/former-udr-mans-campaign-to-clear-name-as-tapes-locked-away-for-over-quarter-of-a-century-reveal-claims-soldier-was-jailed-for-15-years-on-fabricated-evidence/




Considering that RUC officers and UDR soldiers were armed uniformed servants of the Crown who were constantly under attack in the 1970s and 1980s, why were the RUC detectives involved in the "UDR Four" case willing to throw their supposed brothers-in-arms in the UDR under a bus (so to speak)?
Isn't this Republican propaganda?
 

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BUT BUT BUT according to Unionism and the British/Irish media the RUC were wonderful people and accusations of underhand dealings are just Republican propaganda. Sorry Unionists cannot have it both ways. After decades of burying their heads and refusing to accept that there were indeed nefarious RUC antics they just can't start spouting about these UDR men. For Unionism it's a case of the boy who cried wolf.

Unionists only recognise there is collusion when it happens to one of their own.
The difference is that Unionists, unlike Republicans, do not tar all RUC veterans with the same brush. For example, Jeffrey Donaldson, who is involved in the fight to clear the names of three men convicted of the murder of a young Catholic called Francis Rice (Two of the men are brothers, one of whom has since died) told BBC Northern Ireland's Spotlight that his respect for the RUC still stands.
 


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