The Russians Are Having Their Own Irish Water Style Protests - Over Road tolls

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Truck Drivers In Russia Continue Strike Against Road Tax
Hundreds of Russian truck drivers continued their strike for the third day, demanding the government repeal a road tax they say is onerous and ineffective.

The Platon road-tax system was imposed in 2015, sparking a wave of protests by truckers, who have said it is an enrichment scheme rather than a genuine tax to improve roads.

The current protests follow a January 31 government decision to double the Platon fee -- increasing it from 1.53 rubles ($0.03) to 3.06 rubles per kilometer -- as of April 15.

But Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev issued a resolution on March 24 increasing the tax by a more modest 25 percent immediately, making it 1.91 rubles per kilometer.
Kremlin Tells Media Not to Report Truckers’ Strike – But It is Still Happening and Spreading
The long-haul truckers’ strike, the largest and most consequential labor action in Russia since the end of the USSR, is a development few Russians and even fewer people abroad know about because the Kremlin has given an order to the central and regional media outlets to understate the size of the action and the motives behind it.

In the Republic of Daghestan, among the most Islamist and conservative federal subjects in Russia, the government media haven’t covered the strikers but denounced them as threats to the stability of the country. In addition, these outlets have claimed that the truckers have put “false video clips” on the Internet. Despite this, the number of truckers taking part in the south of Russia continues to grow.
Truckers Now on Strike in Almost Every Federal Subject of Russia
Andrey Bazhutkin, the leader of the united long-haul truckers organization, says that drivers are now on strike “in more than 80 regions of Russia,” an overwhelming majority whether one counts the total as 83 or 85 with the illegal addition of Russian-occupied Crimea and Sevastopol.

The strikers are holding firm not only because they believe they have nothing to lose – an estimated 600,000 of them would lose their jobs if the Plato system is put in place but also because they are gaining support from other groups in the population and some in the regional governments like Tatarstan whose State Legislature may call on the Federal Duma to cancel the Plato system .

And with each passing day, the strikers are becoming more unified and politically radical, with some in the North Caucasus now demanding that senior figures in the Russian government, including Dmitry Medvedev, meet with them and negotiate over their grievances
This suggests that the Russian regime is under a lot of stress due to the low oil prices and austerity. Just like here, these protests likely foreshadow the decline of an over-centralised and oligarchical regime in the long run. Unlike Ireland, Russia mightn't be able to hold itself together if it liberalises too much though. Individual regions might formally secede, or just ignore the central government as it suits them and form fiefdoms under local elites. Like Chechnya right now.
 


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This one is definitely popcorn time.
 

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Russia's Reserve Fund is Running Low

Russia's Reserve Fund has become severely depleted from its peak in 2014, from $90 billion then to $16 billion now. This is down to 1.1% of GDP, and Russia is running a deficit of around 2% per annum.

If this Fund runs out, there will likely be even more instability and protests should cutbacks be required. Russia could instead tap into National Wealth Fund, which contains 4.8% of GDP.

Russia might run out of money within 3 years or so at current rates of expenditure depending on how much it borrows.
 

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Russia's Reserve Fund has become severely depleted from its peak in 2014, from $90 billion then to $16 billion now. This is down to 1.1% of GDP, and Russia is running a deficit of around 2% per annum.

If this Fund runs out, there will likely be even more instability and protests should cutbacks be required. Russia could instead tap into National Wealth Fund, which contains 4.8% of GDP.

Russia might run out of money within 3 years or so at current rates of expenditure depending on how much it borrows.
And if they recovered all the money stolen by Putin and his oligarch cronies, how much would they have?

Russia is a basket case. Exhibit A.

 

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They are making the same mistake they did under the Soviets - starving their social services and domestic enterprise to finance a military build-up, in order to project power abroad.

The reality is sanctions are biting - Russia put all its eggs in one basket (oil and gas) and they cant beat the market. What is happening longer term is the Americans are driving for shale, so once that happens, they were going to have trouble anyway.

I don't think this is what Russia (as in capable, serious Russia) wants anyway - because the whole policy exists for one reason: to maintain Putin and his cronies in power: NOT to develop the country or build up foreign alliances etc.

If inflation continues to take a grip, and the average Russian family is spending up to 50% of their income on food, things will get very nasty. Russia may run out of cash, but it wont run out of poor people.
 

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This is hideously awful analysis of Russian society, power - social structures.
 

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This is hideously awful analysis of Russian society, power - social structures.
Sounds like what Venezuela has been experiencing for several years now on the back of low oil prices. An inefficient and crony statist economy can no longer earn enough currency from oil exports to fund itself.

Now you have a toll system contracted out to Putin's friend's son being used to shake working people down. Igor Rotenberg is Russia's Malteaser.

I'm not being a doctrainare Liberal here BTW, Prussia had an efficient state.
 

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Let's send over Phil Hogan to sort it all out.........
 

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Meh, Russian national debt is only 15% of GDP.

a MUST READ!

Very few people understand what Putin is doing at the moment. And almost no one understands what he will do in the future.

No matter how strange it may seem, but right now, Putin is selling Russian oil and gas only for physical gold.

Putin is not shouting about it all over the world. And of course, he still accepts US dollars as an intermediate means of payment. But he immediately exchanges all these dollars obtained from the sale of oil and gas for physical gold!

Grandmaster Putin's Golden Trap | Gold Eagle

And a more recent update.

Russia Gold Buying Is Back
 

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Individual regions might formally secede, or just ignore the central government as it suits them and form fiefdoms under local elites. Like Chechnya right now.
Russia should never be underestimated. Historically it has always managed to survive, mainly because it is willing the pay the price of survival in blood. Any succession would be a bloody affair for two reasons. First the Russians would seek to make an example of them, second there is nothing anyone could do to stop them.
 

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A gimp of a country, we need a strong man, sh1te. A country serving the insiders extraordinaire more like.
 

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Russia should never be underestimated. Historically it has always managed to survive, mainly because it is willing the pay the price of survival in blood. Any succession would be a bloody affair for two reasons. First the Russians would seek to make an example of them, second there is nothing anyone could do to stop them.
Well yes, Russia could spend blood and treasure holding on to its current 85 mini-mes.

But the way the Federation works is like this - the local rulers receive a franchise to run their own mini-state from the Kremlin. The main job of the Moscow-appointed governors is to provide votes for Putin, in exchange for which they get to exploit oil revenues and do whatever they like.

In the last Presidential election, Chechyna delivered 99.7% votes for Putin on a turn-out of 99.6%.

So if Putin goes and the cash runs out, then I wouldn't bet on anything. China could well fill the vacuum.

The Russian Federation isn't a country, you know. Its a protection racket. petunia
 

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Well yes, Russia could spend blood and treasure holding on to its current 85 mini-mes.

But the way the Federation works is like this - the local rulers receive a franchise to run their own mini-state from the Kremlin. The main job of the Moscow-appointed governors is to provide votes for Putin, in exchange for which they get to exploit oil revenues and do whatever they like.

In the last Presidential election, Chechyna delivered 99.7% votes for Putin on a turn-out of 99.6%.

So if Putin goes and the cash runs out, then I wouldn't bet on anything. China could well fill the vacuum.

The Russian Federation isn't a country, you know. Its a protection racket. petunia
One might say, Czar-esque? Or is that Marie-Antoinette?
 

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A gimp of a country, we need a strong man, sh1te. A country serving the insiders extraordinaire more like.
All real countries need a strong man. You see that women are OK as rulers in Europe, because Europe is occupied territory - occupied by the US Empire. The US itself desperately needed a strong man after eight years of Lady Boy Obama, but it turns out that Trump is pussy whipped by his own daughter.
 

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All real countries need a strong man. You see that women are OK as rulers in Europe, because Europe is occupied territory - occupied by the US Empire. The US itself desperately needed a strong man after eight years of Lady Boy Obama, but it turns out that Trump is pussy whipped by his own daughter.
As one might say, ma rules the roost back home, would you agree?
 

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One might say, Czar-esque? Or is that Marie-Antoinette?
Just not a good model. All income from the regions is remitted directly back to Moscow for redistribution by the Governors, well in theory, because they skim the cream and then the Kremlin dips in, so by the time your taxes are returned to you, every one has had a scoop.

Plus, what they do put to state use tends to go into the military, not social services etc. In addition to which, the Federation has no joined up economic policy so it cant turn whatever profits it had from oil trading into a self-sufficient economy. "Dole" is given to the regions.

Then you have the fact that many of the regions are ethnically and culturally non-Russian and Islamic in some instances. At the same time Putin is promoting the Russian Orthodox Church and a very "traditional" ie racist Russian POV. But to make sure things go smoothly in places like Chechyna, he actually turns a blind eye to sharia etc. He claims to honour the wishes of the Crimeans to reunite with Russia but wont allow any breath or murmer of secession in places like Dagestan .They cant hold a referendum on self-determination.

So something got to give petunia its all a big mess o' nuttin.
 

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Just not a good model. All income from the regions is remitted directly back to Moscow for redistribution by the Governors, well in theory, because they skim the cream and then the Kremlin dips in, so by the time your taxes are returned to you, every one has had a scoop.

Plus, what they do put to state use tends to go into the military, not social services etc. In addition to which, the Federation has no joined up economic policy so it cant turn whatever profits it had from oil trading into a self-sufficient economy. "Dole" is given to the regions.

Then you have the fact that many of the regions are ethnically and culturally non-Russian and Islamic in some instances. At the same time Putin is promoting the Russian Orthodox Church and a very "traditional" ie racist Russian POV. But to make sure things go smoothly in places like Chechyna, he actually turns a blind eye to sharia etc. He claims to honour the wishes of the Crimeans to reunite with Russia but wont allow any breath or murmer of secession in places like Dagestan .They cant hold a referendum on self-determination.

So something got to give petunia its all a big mess o' nuttin.
I am far from an expert on Russia so therefore I can only draw on my better half's and her families experience from occupation of a small Baltic nation in Soviet times, and this is probably a universal saying, 'Russians are grand, no problem, it's just that their government, absolutely cannot be trusted'.
 

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I am far from an expert on Russia so therefore I can only draw on my better half's and her families experience from occupation of a small Baltic nation in Soviet times, and this is probably a universal saying, 'Russians are grand, no problem, it's just that their government, absolutely cannot be trusted'.
I agree with this. "Russia", because that is only one country and the dominant one in what has always been a land empire, is a bit of a conundrum, in the sense its govts have always been sh*t - and what is more sh*t in basically the same ways. The people are a different matter.
 


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