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The Secret Millionaire. Putting things in perspective.


DuineEile

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On RTE 1 now. Amazing to see people getting on with it, despite the severest of handicaps. We do not live in an economy folks, we live in a society.

With.lots.of.diverse.people.

People are amazing. Companies and economies, not so much.


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Crazy horse 6

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That man with the dying child, I am not ashamed to say I shed a tear. People like that man are incredible. How he manages i'll never know.

To think a lot of these people are struggling whilst trying to do these things and the likes of Da Bert gets 3k a week makes me want to break something.:mad:
 

Boy M5

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I turned it off after 1st 5 minutes. Wish I hadn't. He has the head off of his grandfather.
 

kkkkkkkkkk

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On RTE 1 now. Amazing to see people getting on with it, despite the severest of handicaps. We do not live in an economy folks, we live in a society.

With.lots.of.diverse.people.

People are amazing. Companies and economies, not so much.


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someone has to pay the legal leeches
where do you think their money is going to come from
if we help the poor
 

drummed

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someone has to pay the legal leeches
where do you think their money is going to come from
if we help the poor


Bit of an obsession this legal stuff for you? Want to tell us the story?
 

Skin the Goat

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To think a lot of these people are struggling whilst trying to do these things and the likes of Da Bert gets 3k a week makes me want to break something.:mad:
Pity it doesn't make you want to mend something.
 

DuineEile

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That man with the dying child, I am not ashamed to say I shed a tear. People like that man are incredible. How he manages i'll never know.

To think a lot of these people are struggling whilst trying to do these things and the likes of Da Bert gets 3k a week makes me want to break something.:mad:
That was what drove me to start the thread. Everything was worth watching, but the man and his daughter were life affirming.


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dizillusioned

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Perhaps our glorious tax system could be changed. One thing I see in other countries is the amount of donations to charities to worthy causes, not only by the wealthy but also by the ordinary man on the street.

In the States the likes of Goodwill etc give donations a tax break to the person donating. Clothing etc etc is donated. Recycling the items, allowing the poor to purchase large items at a tiny price. Substantial donations to local causes are made by many supermarkets as part of their community awareness programs. Individual donations are tax deductable to genuine causes. This allows a sense of philanthropy which is non-existant in Ireland for the most part.

I know the secret millionaire is made for TV, it does show SOME of the issues certain sections of society have to deal with. Why not harness the wealth that the wealthy have managed to earn and have direct donations instead of central donations through government which costs more?
 

Kev408

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I've been reduced to part-time hours. That show reminds me how lucky I really am.
 

Taxi Driver

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Perhaps our glorious tax system could be changed. One thing I see in other countries is the amount of donations to charities to worthy causes, not only by the wealthy but also by the ordinary man on the street.

In the States the likes of Goodwill etc give donations a tax break to the person donating. Clothing etc etc is donated. Recycling the items, allowing the poor to purchase large items at a tiny price. Substantial donations to local causes are made by many supermarkets as part of their community awareness programs. Individual donations are tax deductable to genuine causes. This allows a sense of philanthropy which is non-existant in Ireland for the most part.

I know the secret millionaire is made for TV, it does show SOME of the issues certain sections of society have to deal with. Why not harness the wealth that the wealthy have managed to earn and have direct donations instead of central donations through government which costs more?
It was killed by "one of the few socialists left in Irish politics".
 

Hogsback

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Perhaps our glorious tax system could be changed. One thing I see in other countries is the amount of donations to charities to worthy causes, not only by the wealthy but also by the ordinary man on the street.

In the States the likes of Goodwill etc give donations a tax break to the person donating. Clothing etc etc is donated. Recycling the items, allowing the poor to purchase large items at a tiny price. Substantial donations to local causes are made by many supermarkets as part of their community awareness programs. Individual donations are tax deductable to genuine causes. This allows a sense of philanthropy which is non-existant in Ireland for the most part.

I know the secret millionaire is made for TV, it does show SOME of the issues certain sections of society have to deal with. Why not harness the wealth that the wealthy have managed to earn and have direct donations instead of central donations through government which costs more?
Are charitable donations not tax deductible in Ireland?
Here (Canada) any charitable donation is treated as a full reduction in income, and the income tax (up to 50% depending on your marginal rate) is removed from it.
 

Betson

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Don't usually watch these reality shows , but surely everyone knows this guy is going to turn out to be the secret millionaire, he arrives with a dodgy story usually about making a documentary on social work etc with camera crew on hand.

So people are extra nice to nice pretending not to be in the know and trying to hide their surprise when he reveals himself and starts writing cheques and then some hide their disappointment when cheques are not as big as they thought the would be.

But I do feel sorry for anyone who really does want to do a social documentary in these areas , they will be lynched when they are not revealed as secret millionaires.
 

tipp revolution

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An interesting talk on my cybermag Ted.com about donating effectively- one great org is against malaria which gives nets to African kids which reduces child mortality from the disease. So simple. Apparently we Re all more sophisticated givers now - there are sites which rate the most effective charities the test being the number of people saved. And dont forget good old bono (he is 53!!) And the fantastic one foundation. There's my global perspective
 

Deep Blue

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Don't usually watch these reality shows , but surely everyone knows this guy is going to turn out to be the secret millionaire, he arrives with a dodgy story usually about making a documentary on social work etc with camera crew on hand.

So people are extra nice to nice pretending not to be in the know and trying to hide their surprise when he reveals himself and starts writing cheques and then some hide their disappointment when cheques are not as big as they thought the would be.

But I do feel sorry for anyone who really does want to do a social documentary in these areas , they will be lynched when they are not revealed as secret millionaires.



Paddy O'Gorman is still getting away with it on PK every week. Mind you, there's no camera, only mics, so maybe he's been chased away a few times....
 

Roisin3

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Are charitable donations not tax deductible in Ireland?
Here (Canada) any charitable donation is treated as a full reduction in income, and the income tax (up to 50% depending on your marginal rate) is removed from it.
It's not tax deductible in the UK for the individual but you can sign the tax on that amount over to the charity. So that if you donate £100 the charity can claim another £25 from the tax man. I believe it's the same in the UK and Ireland as I have seen the tick off boxes for both countries on donation web pages.
 
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