...and knowing he was as guilty as hell, he still put her through the ordeal of a trial.If you think feeling sympathy for "the lad" after he dragged a drunk girl behind a skip and raped her is ok, then you might want to have a look at yourself too. Just because he grew up in an entitled environment where his parents, coaches and friends told him everyrhing he sees is his for the taking doesn't excuse his vile behaviour.
As someone else said, he might have only been sentenced to six months but it's six months more than most rapists get.Don't be under any illusions that the girls Ger13 is talking about getting raped will be reporting it. They know it's a waste of time and it's a double rape if you do.
In fairness her statement was pretty feckin' dumb... akin to saying murder on campus isn't always because the offender is a murderer... a moronic statement imo...
I agree if those are the facts however you will see feminist posters on here [claiming to want equality] yet having no problem with women getting easier sentences and lower rates of convictions for the same crimes. You will never see them complaining about false rape accusers and their laughably lenient sentences either which lead to actual rapes being deprived of resources. Instead they continue their hatchet job on ''all men'' . If the same standard was applied to women they'd be screaming 'not all women' .
For someone who constantly whines about crude generalisations I'm surprised that you're defending a crude generalisation.And here we go again with you too. Have you anything to say about the victim, about the rapist, or is it general whataboutery to divert attention elsewhere.
Yes Ger13 is a woman, she was being sarcastic I assume.She? Ger12 is a woman?
So how does that explain it's effect on the judge. With his six month sentence? Are we saying the conviction was unjust, due to the victim impact statement.
That didn't occur to me. I wondered what it was in their upbringing made them do the right thing. And I wondered too would the other 'jocks' (I think they call them that in US universities) have intervened.As someone else said, he might have only been sentenced to six months but it's six months more than most rapists get.
That in turn is thanks to the two Swedish guys who rescued her and caught Turner.
It did occur to me that if they'd been two African-American men, they might have been the ones ending up in the dock.
Absolutely NOBODY believes sex with an UNCONSCIOUS woman is anything but rape. 6 months is a ridiculous sentence.I feel some sympathy for the lad. He raped that girl, like lots of young lads in Ireland will do outside the back of the nightclubs with young girls too drunk to consent to anything.
You see, he wasn't taught that it's rape, in fact, there's a bucket load of fellas on this site you don't see it as a big deal. What did the lads dad say, twenty minutes of action ....
And the race element, the US justice system is pretty disgusting when you look at the difference in how colour influences sentences.
Unlike you, and despite what he did, I most certainly hope that Turner does not get savagely violated in jail. How does that solve anything. I'd also suggest American jails are inhumane. And run for money rather than rehabilitation.I do not believe that judges should make determinations based on anything other than fact. If a person rapes two women, and one woman feels somewhat more violated than the other woman, we should not let this allow us to give the rapist a lesser sentence in respect of the woman who felt relatively less violated. The law should be rule based, and we should not vary those rules based on the ability of a victim to articulate pain or grief.
Now as for that little bastard who raped a passed out girl behind a skip, I hope the gets savagely violated in jail. And for his father- sure he was being a father and defending his son, but he, if I am not mistaken, did describe the rape as "20 minutes of action", and that might have something to do with why the little fvcker did it in the first place. It disgusts me.
Where are you coming from with that, plenty on here think Chad Evans having sex was consenual, and then there's the same guys on the thread where the rapist admitted raping his girlfriend who was unconscious, yet they say it wasn't rape.Absolutely NOBODY believes sex with an UNCONSCIOUS woman is anything but rape. 6 months is a ridiculous sentence.
Yep, I've never liked the idea of victim impact statements. For me, the justice system is there to serve society, not victims. We need to separate the justice system from services provided specifically for victims of crime.