The Sunday Independent - A Quality Newspaper?

Supermanpolitician

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I never get it but I stayed in a hotel last night. I breezed through it and there is much about Harris and O'Connor on the threads, as well as some decent stuff about Gene kerrigan who along with Alan Corcoran bucks the trend. But the main questions is just how sh*te a paper is when you read articles like this?

Ronald Quinlan is aiming high in the world of high journalism.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 46221.html
 


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Had a look at the link, unbelievable rubbish - Cowen has 2 apts. in Dublin, one of which he uses himself. What relevance is this or the rest of the rubbish to anything. The Indo is to quality as RTE is to Public Service
 

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wombat said:
Had a look at the link, unbelievable rubbish - Cowen has 2 apts. in Dublin, one of which he uses himself. What relevance is this or the rest of the rubbish to anything. The Indo is to quality as RTE is to Public Service
I would love to know the journalistic credentials of these guys. Ronald Quinlan does not strike me as a particularly talented man.
 
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Had a glance thru it yesterday-nothing worth reading except Kerrigan's article and the sections
about the Irish language.
The magazine with it borders on soft porn. I have no problem with Rosanna Davidson doing
a nude photoshoot, but it belongs in Playboy or FHM, not a newspaper.
 

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Supermanpolitician said:
I never get it but I stayed in a hotel last night. I breezed through it and there is much about Harris and O'Connor on the threads, as well as some decent stuff about Gene kerrigan who along with Alan Corcoran bucks the trend. But the main questions is just how sh*te a paper is when you read articles like this?

Ronald Quinlan is aiming high in the world of high journalism.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 46221.html
All you had to do was ring down to reception, they'd have sent up rolls of paper if you ran out ;)
 

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Supermanpolitician said:
I never get it but I stayed in a hotel last night. I breezed through it and there is much about Harris and O'Connor on the threads, as well as some decent stuff about Gene kerrigan who along with Alan Corcoran bucks the trend. But the main questions is just how sh*te a paper is when you read articles like this?

Ronald Quinlan is aiming high in the world of high journalism.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 46221.html
As articles go in the Sunday Independent, that is a harmless one, its a filler. What really makes the Sindo such a rag is the tripe written by Brendan O'Connor and Eoghan Harris etc on matters that are of real importance.

In the fairness to the article you quoted, it does have some substance, Farmleigh should be used as a residence for An Taoiseach.
 

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FakeViking said:
Supermanpolitician said:
I never get it but I stayed in a hotel last night. I breezed through it and there is much about Harris and O'Connor on the threads, as well as some decent stuff about Gene kerrigan who along with Alan Corcoran bucks the trend. But the main questions is just how sh*te a paper is when you read articles like this?

Ronald Quinlan is aiming high in the world of high journalism.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 46221.html
All you had to do was ring down to reception, they'd have sent up rolls of paper if you ran out ;)
Yep, but there's a perverse pleasure in rubbing Brendan o Connors nose in it ...so to speak.
 
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Do any of the readers here remember what the "Sunday Independent" was like before
Angus Fanning became editor?
 

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Starkadder said:
Do any of the readers here remember what the "Sunday Independent" was like before
Angus Fanning became editor?
Way back in the faraway beforetime? It seems like he's been there forever. Anyone know what year he took over?
 
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Sidewinder said:
Starkadder said:
Do any of the readers here remember what the "Sunday Independent" was like before
Angus Fanning became editor?
Way back in the faraway beforetime? It seems like he's been there forever. Anyone know what year he took over?
It was 1985 I think he took over..from Michael Hand I think. There's an excellent discussion of
the Sunday Independent's politics in Emily O'Reilly's book on Veronica Guerin.
 

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It was 1985 I think he took over..from Michael Hand I think. There's an excellent discussion of
the Sunday Independent's politics in Emily O'Reilly's book on Veronica Guerin.
85? Before my time, I was 12 at the time. I do remember as a child it being specifically mentioned in quite a few households of friends and family, and not in a nice way. "Don't be bringing that treacherous rag under this roof!", etc. So I don't think the Sindo was ever popular with the more republican or left-leaning northern nationalists.
 
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Sidewinder said:
Starkadder said:
It was 1985 I think he took over..from Michael Hand I think. There's an excellent discussion of
the Sunday Independent's politics in Emily O'Reilly's book on Veronica Guerin.
85? Before my time, I was 12 at the time. I do remember as a child it being specifically mentioned in quite a few households of friends and family, and not in a nice way. "Don't be bringing that treacherous rag under this roof!", etc. So I don't think the Sindo was ever popular with the more republican or left-leaning northern nationalists.
My dad had a similar attitude to the Irish Times & Guardian. I think Independent newspapers always had
an anti-republican agenda, but in the early 90s the Sindo took the gloves off with its attacks
on Hume-Adams.
 

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Quinlan is one of the many interchangeable journalists who write pure drivel on a week in week out basis. He is particularly untalented.
 
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Do you think if Denis O'Brien buys INM, the current Sindo team might get their marching
orders?
 

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Sunday independant and quality are not word that i would use together to be honest, its a terrible paper from a terrible stable of publications that are best avoided, that being said it (INM) does a few good journalists, notably Myers & Ruddock (IMHO)
 

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God lads, how many Sindo-bashing threads have we had so far? Tens, or hundreds? I agree that the paper is sh*te, but there's no need to go on about it...
 

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antagoniser said:
As articles go in the Sunday Independent, that is a harmless one, its a filler. What really makes the Sindo such a rag is the tripe written by Brendan O'Connor and Eoghan Harris etc on matters that are of real importance.
Aengus Fanning never had any links to the Workers Party but he brought in Anne Harris as Deputy editor in the mid 1980s.

She and Eoghan influenced the paper hugely particularly in savage criticism of John Hume in the early 90s, I believe Hume was distressed by this criticism.

Eamonn Dunphy was one of the most outspoken Sindo voices but later had a Damascus conversion and denounced the Sindo as the "Duckworth school of journalism".

Prior to involvement in the Sindo Eoghan Harris exercised much influence in RTE, opposing the Provos and also in the 1970s phenomenon of "Farmer bashing", the Workers Party were notable for criticism of farmers.
 

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Breadan O'Connor said:
Prior to involvement in the Sindo Eoghan Harris exercised much influence in RTE, opposing the Provos and also in the 1970s phenomenon of "Farmer bashing", the Workers Party were notable for criticism of farmers.
It makes you wonder who Harris was really working for and what agenda he was pushing. It is a disgrace that that Ahern appointed this horse's ass to the Seanad.

Regards...jmcc
 


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