The surprising findings of the Magdalene Laundries report

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Anyone with a bit of knowledge of human nature and three brain cells to rub together knows that when Southerners wax lyrical about real or imagined crimes of Catholic Religious Orders in Ireland's past they are doing so in a desperate attempt to justify their contemporary cruelties and/or indecencies to themselves. This is neither rocket science or brain surgery.
Yes indeed, to hear the Libtards, you'd think that child abuse was a thing of the past and they were wondering how it every could have happened. The fact, however, it that there has never been as much child abuse in Ireland as there is today.
 


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Yes indeed, to hear the Libtards, you'd think that child abuse was a thing of the past and they were wondering how it every could have happened. The fact, however, it that there has never been as much child abuse in Ireland as there is today.
Or at least it isn't as well organised and facilitated as when the rotten catholic church were industrialising it.
 

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Or at least it isn't as well organised and facilitated as when the rotten catholic church were industrialising it.
Oh its well organized all right. The banks give leverage to speculators to push up home prices out of the reach of families, then the hotel owners who are well connected to Fine Gael make a fortune on renting out rooms to the state. Thousands of children living from one hotel room to the next, with no sense of security or a future. Without a doubt, many of them will turn to prostitution - and then the abortion industry will be ready to profit on killing their babies.
 

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@Dublin City Councillors, Crack on and get A *UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE SITE* on your AGENDA ASAP...




Calls for Sean McDermott Street Magdalene Laundry to be made a *HERITAGE SITE*




STARRY: I SECOND ABOVE, AND FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE A ***UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE SITE*** IN PERPETUITY (SEE MY BELOW POSTS CALLING FOR SAME)




Dr Maeve O'Rourke Retweeted
Shona Murray‏Verified account @ShonaMurray_ 7h7 hours ago


‘A cruel and lonely place’. #MagdaleneLaundry survivors want Seán McDermott St to be transformed into a heritage site #standfortruth ⁦@DubCityCouncil



September 3 2018 2:00 PM


Calls for former Magdalene Laundry to be transformed into heritage site


https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...-transformed-into-heritage-site-37277516.html


by Shona Murray







Delia Hanney from Broadstone who was in the Magdalene Laundry in Sean McDermott St from 1973-76, pictured outside the former laundry. Picture Credit:Frank McGrath 30/8/18



A major vote on the fate of the site was due to take place at Dublin City Council today but has been adjourned until September 13th.

Sixty three councillors will vote on whether to halt the proposed sale of the laundry to a Japanese hotel group for a bid of around €14.5 million.


Delia Hanney, survivor of Sean McDermott Street Magdalene Laundry run by Sisters of Our Lady of Charity



"It should be a training centre and a museum for all victims of institutional and clerical abuse in the country," said former resident Delia Hanney.

It’s important for "generations to come they could come and see the machines and instruments on display."

"And then have a memorial garden so we never forget what happened; it should be something useful; definitely not a hotel," she told Independent.ie.


Ms Hanney was 13 years old when she was sent to the laundry. She was resident in an industrial school in Kilkenny prior to that.

"I was bright, and I enjoyed the education I had in Kilkenny.

But her personality altered to one filled with fear and cruelty when she arrived at Sean McDermott Street.

"I remember getting slapped across the face. It would burn your face. I’d cry every night and wonder why I was sent here.

"There were many times I felt I wanted to kill myself but I didn’t have the courage."


Jane Marie Conlon was raped by notorious paedophile priest Fr Bill Carney whilst in a Dublin industrial school, and after she complained, Jane was sent to Sisters of Charity Magdalene Laundry in High Park and then ended up in Sean McDermott Street Magdalene Laundry



[Jane Marie Conlon} "When I complained that I didn’t want to go out with Bill Carney anymore, I suddenly ended up in the Magdalene Laundry in High Park," she said.

She gave testimony for the Murphy report on clerical sex abuse in the Dublin archdiocese which detailed over 30 cases of rape and abuse by Carney. It is well-regarded that many more existed.

She was sent to the training centre in Sean McDermott Street initially. It was meant to facilitate young women receive basic skills ahead of release at the age of 16.

"Eventually they sent me here. I was horrible. It smelt rotten. We’d get up, say prayers, and we’d work all day.

She told Independent.ie a museum and a proper interactive site would help abuse survivors heal, and be a respectful way of letting the public know what happened throughout those years.


Site of Conscience ... We need a *National Museum and Educational Centre as well as HERITAGE STATUS* for Magdalene Laundry, Sean McDermott Street



LAST DAYS TO SIGN PETITION AND TO LOBBY DUBLIN CITY COUNCILLORS TO SAVE MAGDALENE LAUNDRY AT SEAN MCDERMOTT STREET



Sign the Petition Here ~

https://my.uplift.ie/petitions/act-now-to-remember-the-magdalene-laundry-survivors



https://mobile.twitter.com/HonouringM


Honouring Magdalenes @HonouringM


Want to contact your local Cllrs to #StoptheSale of the last laundry in State ownership? Find your local Cllrs contact info here!






Honouring Magdalenes Retweeted


Cllr Cieran Perry @PerryCieran
Replying to
@HonouringM
@CllrAConnaghan
and 2 others


I will be voting against the sale of the public owned site to private developers. I want to see the site remain in public ownership. Ideally the site would be used for public housing and include a suitable monument to commemorate those imprisoned in the Magdalene Laundry.

Honouring Magdalenes Retweeted


Cllr. John Lyons @JohnLyonsPBPA
Replying to
@HonouringM
@DeclanFlanagan3
and 2 others


I’ll be supporting the motion on Monday. I think Irish society in 2018 is open enough to embrace & explore the horrors of the past, the institutional violence and oppression carried out by the Irish State and Catholic Church, and this site can play a part in that process.


Honouring Magdalenes Retweeted

Andrew Keegan @Keegan1Andrew
Replying to
@HonouringM
@CatCarneyBoud
and 4 others


I will but supporting the move to keep the Laundry as a site of conscience, to remember what was suffered by women who sought refuge in our city, abuse inflicted by the church and supported by state.
#MagdaleneLaundry #Redress


Cllr Michael O'Brien @cllrmobrien
Replying to
@HonouringM

I will be voting for cllr Gannon’s motion


Honouring Magdalenes Retweeted

Cllr. Tina MacVeigh PBPA @TinaMacVeigh
Replying to
@HonouringM
@PatDunneI4C
and 3 others

The building which housed the Magdalene Laundry at SeanMcDermot St should be kept in public ownership. It should become a memorial to the thousands of women all over the country who were subjected to brutal incarceration & slave labour.
#Magdalenes
#Stand4Truth
#Redress
@pb4p

Honouring Magdalenes Retweeted

Gary Gannon @1GaryGannon
Replying to
@HonouringM
and
@RayMcAdam

As proposer of the motion, I’ll be voting to keep this site in State Ownership and ensuring that we create a national centre of Remembrance and learning at Sean McDermott St.




Gary Gannon @1GaryGannon

The motion that Dublin City Councillors will be asked to vote on this coming Monday with regards to
#StopTheSale
of the former laundry on Sean McDermott St. This building should be kept as a centre of commemoration and learning for future generations.






Gary Gannon Retweeted

Womenscouncilireland @NWCI

Magdalene laundry must be saved as a lesson from history - important piece by ⁦
@1GaryGannon on saving the laundry on Sean McDermott St as a national commemorative and education centre #StoptheSale






Womenscouncilireland @NWCI

"I’d like them to acknowledge... and accept what has happened - instead of saying, ‘oh yes I’m sorry,’ but no meaning behind it - and make sure it never ever, ever happens again." Sign to stop the sale of the last Magdalene Laundry #stopthesale








Sign the Petition Here ~

https://my.uplift.ie/petitions/act-now-to-remember-the-magdalene-laundry-survivors




#NoWeePlaque


In the short term a survivor might feel the same way. However, it should be a HERITAGE SITE (EVEN A UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE SITE)) for future generations to commemorate the atrocities committed on vulnerable women and children in Ireland.

From what I've heard, overwhelmingly, the gathering of Magdalene women from around the world on 5th & 6th June, in Dublin, wanted a Museum and educational centre on that 2-acre site.




VOTE ON POTENTIAL *UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE SITE,* BY DUBLIN CITY COUNCILLORS, HAS BEEN ADJOURNED UNTIL THURSDAY 13 SEPTEMBER.


DUBLIN CITY COUNCILLORS, I CALL ON YOU TO PLEASE PUT THE NECESSITY FOR A UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE SITE ON YOUR AGENDA ASAP.




#NoWeePlaque
 

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2 X Sample *Proforma Letters* below requesting YOUR Dublin City Councillor VOTE AGAINST SALE OF SEAN MCDERMOTT STREET MAGDALENE LAUNDRY 2-ACRE SITE...




Mailing List for Sixty-three Dublin City Councillors ~


https://www.dublincity.ie/councilmeetings/mgCommitteeMailingList.aspx?EM=1&ID=0


Councillor Chris Andrews Email: chris.andrews@dublincity.ie

Councillor Kieran Binchy, Email: kieran.binchy@dublincity.ie

Councillor Paddy Bourke Email: pbourkecllr@eircom.net

Councillor Janice Boylan Email: janice.boylan@dublincity.ie

Councillor Tom Brabazon Email: Tom.brabazon@dublincity.ie

Councillor Christy Burke Email: christy.burke@dublincity.ie

Councillor Claire Byrne Email: claire.byrne@dublincity.ie

Deputy Lord Mayor Councillor Cathleen Carney Boud Email: cathleen.boud@dublincity.ie

Councillor Brendan Carr Email: brendan.carr@dublincity.ie

Councillor Aine Clancy Email: aine.clancy@dublincity.ie

Councillor Anthony Connaghan Email: anthony.connaghan@dublincity.ie

Councillor David Costello Email: david.costello@dublincity.ie

Councillor Patrick Costello Email: patrick.costello@dublincity.ie

Councillor Ciaran Cuffe Email: ciaran.cuffe@dublincity.ie

Councillor Hazel De Nortuin Email: hazel.denortuin@dublincity.ie

Councillor Daithi De Roiste Email: daithi.deroiste@dublincity.ie

Councillor Daithi Doolan Email: daithi.doolan@dublincity.ie

Councillor Pat Dunne Email: pat.dunne1@dublincity.ie

Councillor Gaye Fagan Email: gaye.fagan@dublincity.ie

Councillor Anne Feeney Email: anne.feeney@dublincity.ie

Councillor Declan Flanagan Email: declan.flanagan@dublincity.ie

Councillor Mannix Flynn Email: mannix.flynn@dublincity.ie

Councillor Mary Freehill Email: marycfreehill@gmail.com

Councillor Gary Gannon Email: gary.gannon@socialdemocrats.ie

Councillor Alison Gilliland Email: alison.gilliland@dublincity.ie

Councillor Paul Hand Email: phand@dublincity.ie

Councillor Deirdre Heney Email: heneydm@gmail.com

Councillor Jane Horgan-Jones Email: horganjones.jane@gmail.com

Councillor Vincent Jackson Email: vincent.jackson@dublincity.ie

Councillor Andrew Keegan Email: andrew.keegan@dublincity.ie

Councillor Teresa Keegan Email: teresa.keegan@dublincity.ie

Councillor Greg Kelly Email: greg.kelly@dublincity.ie

Councillor Frank Kennedy Email: frank.kennedy@dublincity.ie

Councillor Dermot Lacey Email: dermot.lacey@labour.ie

Councillor John Lyons Email: john.lyons31@gmail.com

Councillor Mícheál Mac Donncha Email: mmacdonncha@gmail.com

Councillor Tina MacVeigh Email: tinymv@gmail.com

Councillor Sean Paul Mahon Email: seanpaul.mahon@dublincity.ie

Councillor Ray McAdam Email: raymcadam@gmail.com

Councillor Paul McAuliffe Email: paul@votemcauliffe.com

Councillor Paddy McCartan Email: cllrpatmccartan@gmail.com

Councillor Ruairi McGinley Email: uairi.mcginley@dublincity.ie

Councillor Seamas McGrattan Email: seamas.mcgrattan@dublincity.ie

Councillor Ray McHugh Email: ray.mchugh@dublincity.ie

Councillor Andrew Montague Email: andrewmontague@me.com

Councillor Edel Moran Email: sadhbhm09@gmail.com

Councillor Rebecca Moynihan Email: rebecca.moynihan@dublincity.ie

Councillor Michael Mullooly Email: mulloolymichael@gmail.com

Councillor Emma Murphy Email: emma.murphy@dublincity.ie

Councillor Criona Ni Dhalaigh Email: dcccedept@gmail.com

Councillor Naoise O Muiri Email: naoise.omuiri@dublincity.ie

Councillor Michael O'Brien Email: mobrien@dublincity.ie

Councillor Claire O'Connor Email: claire.oconnor@dublincity.ie

Councillor Damian O'Farrell Email: damianofarrell@gmail.com

Councillor Ciaran O'Moore Email: ciaran.omoore@dublincity.ie

Councillor Larry O'Toole Email: larry.otoole@dublincity.ie

Councillor Cieran Perry Email: cieran.perry@dublincity.ie

Councillor Noeleen Reilly Email: noeleen.reilly@dublincity.ie

Lord Mayor Nial Ring Email: Lordmayor@dublincity.ie

Councillor Eilis Ryan Email: eilis.ryan@dublincity.ie

Councillor Norma Sammon Email: norma.sammon@dublincity.ie

Councillor Dr Paddy Smyth Email: paddy.smyth@dublincity.ie

Councillor Sonya Stapleton Email: sonya.stapleton@dublincity.ie



(1) PROFORMA LETTER TO COPY AND PASTE, AND THEN SEND TO DUBLIN CITY COUNCILLORS:



6 September 2018



Dear Councillors


Vote Against Sale of Sean McDermott Magdalene Laundry 2-Acre Site on 13 September 2018


Making it a Museum and Educational Centre benefits the community more, bringing world recognition of Dublin's commitment to human rights, which has always been the cornerstone of Irish culture, and its appeal to tourism and investment.



Yours sincerely



[Insert your name]



Please remember that we are writing to Politicians!



AND



(2) AN ALTERNATIVE PROFORMA LETTER TO COPY AND PASTE, AND THEN SEND TO DUBLIN CITY COUNCILLORS:



6 September 2018


Dear Councillor [Insert name]


Vote Against Sale of Sean McDermott Magdalene Laundry 2-Acre Site on 13 September 2018


Sean McDermott Street Magdalene Laundry should be a Heritage site to memorialise the victims in perpetuity. It should be protected from commercialisation. Development would be a slap in the face to those who laboured involuntarily, without payment, and spent their entire lives behind the doors of that institution.

They should have a permanent significant Memorial for the multiple generations of victims, so they will never be forgotten.

Yours sincerely



[Insert your name]



_____________



Contact Details ~

https://www.dublincity.ie/councilmeetings/mgCommitteeMailingList.aspx?EM=0&ID=0


Councillors by Political Party ~

https://www.dublincity.ie/councilmeetings/mgMemberIndex.aspx?FN=PARTY&VW=LIST&PIC=0


Councillors by Local Electoral Area ~

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Councillors by Local Electoral Area ~

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View councillors in a table ~

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Sean McDermott Magdalene Laundry 2-Acre Site ~ THE COUNCILLORS VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY TO HALT THE SALE


I Salute Gary Gannon for his LEADERSHIP


The site needs HERITAGE STATUS now.



Gary Gannon (@1GaryGannon) | Twitter


Gary Gannon‏ @1GaryGannon


Tonight the elected members of DCC voted overwhelmingly to halt the sale of the former Magdalene Laundry on Seán McDermott St. I’m proud of my city & looking forward to ensuring an appropriate memorial is placed there to honour the victims & survivors of institutional abuse

Gary Gannon Retweeted
Dr Maeve O'Rourke‏ @maeveorourke 7h7 hours ago
Dr Maeve O'Rourke Retweeted Social Democrats


Yes!! Bursting with pride in the women and all councillors who made such honest & meaningful contributions. This is Ireland. #Stand4Truth

Dr Maeve O'Rourke added,



Social Democrats Verified account @SocDems


@DubCityCouncil has just voted in support of motion from @1GaryGannon to block the sale of the last Magdalene Laundry in state hands to a hotel chain - a victory for women and survivors


I'm delighted for all the Magdalene women and survivors of institutional abuses.
 

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Sean McDermott Magdalene Laundry 2-Acre Site ~ THE COUNCILLORS VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY TO HALT THE SALE


I Salute Gary Gannon for his LEADERSHIP


The site needs HERITAGE STATUS now.



Gary Gannon (@1GaryGannon) | Twitter


Gary Gannon‏ @1GaryGannon





Gary Gannon Retweeted
Dr Maeve O'Rourke‏ @maeveorourke 7h7 hours ago
Dr Maeve O'Rourke Retweeted Social Democrats





Dr Maeve O'Rourke added,



Social Democrats Verified account @SocDems






I'm delighted for all the Magdalene women and survivors of institutional abuses.
is this Dr Maeve O Rourke a daughter of Sean in RTE,maybe she will get sense yet?
 

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is this Dr Maeve O Rourke a daughter of Sean in RTE,maybe she will get sense yet?

Yes it is. Her mother is Caroline Murphy. They have 6 children. Maeve's masters thesis (at Harvard) was about the Magdalene Laundries. She continues to advocate for Justice for Magdalenes Research Group pro bono. Her present employment is with ICCL, and I can see her shining light in all their press releases.
 

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Yes it is. Her mother is Caroline Murphy. They have 6 children. Maeve's masters thesis (at Harvard) was about the Magdalene Laundries. She continues to advocate for Justice for Magdalenes Research Group pro bono. Her present employment is with ICCL, and I can see her shining light in all their press releases.
interessting, she is a great help to all
 

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Funeral Cortege For The Children Of Tuam



#walkwithpeter



2:00 pm Saturday 6th October,
Garden of Remembrance,
Parnell Square,
Dublin.


The Children of the Tuam Mother and Baby Home still lie in a disused septic tank at the site of the former 'home'. Of the 796 Death Certificates issued by the State, burial records are known for just two of those children.

In late 2016, a partial excavation by the Commission of Investigation, confirmed the existence of large quantities of infant remains, in 17 out of 20 chambers of a disused sewerage system. These are the mortal remains of the Children of Tuam.

Since then, neither the local Coroner or the Attorney General has exercised their powers or performed their duties to convene an Inquest into the deaths of a single child.

On Saturday 6th October, we ask the good people of Ireland to join us in a simple dignified funeral cortege to honour the Children of Tuam; children never accorded the dignity of funeral rites by Church or State.

I shall be walking to honour a sister, whom I have never known. Please join us by carrying a simple white shoe-box, bearing the name of a child of Tuam, to represent the coffins they were never granted and the six single mothers who died at the Tuam Home and also have no burial records. Give them that simple act of dignity in less than one hour of your own lifetime.


Thank you.


Peter Mulryan.
Tuam Home Survivors Network



For a Full List of the Tuam Children and Women's Names ~

Tuam Baby Death Records
 

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Tweet from Activist Solicitor Kevin Higgins, Organiser of Funeral Cortege for Tuam Children ... GARDAI INTERFERENCE OF FUNERAL CORTEGE'S PLANNED ROUTE AWAY FROM LEINSTER HOUSE





:mad2: @MINISTER CHARLIE FLANAGAN :mad2:



:mad2: :mad2: :mad2: ATTEMPT TO RE-ROUTE THE FUNERAL CORTEGE FOR TUAM CHILDREN TOMORROW, REMEMBRANCE GARDEN, DUBLIN, AT 2:00 PM ... RE-ROUTE BY TWO MILES AWAY FROM LEINSTER HOUSE



Twitter


Kevin Higgins @Boglawyer



:mad2: :mad2: :mad2: Saturday 6th October will be the 50th anniversary (plus 1 day) of the infamous Civil Rights March in Derry, An Garda Siochana wish to divert the #tuambabies funeral cortege by some 2 miles and away from Leinster House. Nope. We have left it with your office [MENTION=6814]Charlie[/MENTION]Flanagan 12:58 AM · Oct 5, 2018
 

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Still going strong in the US.
 

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Could you point out any examples of this 'encouragement to kill'?
 

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The Garda station is your friend, where you think killings may be occurring. If you can find one, they usually have a symbol outside denoting the presence of a Garda station.

Also, you'll see all sorts of dodgy parking near a Garda station so they are available to the alert passerby without too much detective work.
 

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Years ago I said there should be a full investigation into RCC child abuse in every parish in the south. It was screamed down by so called experts but what happened ten years later? Why nothing much just 800 dead babies were found dumped in a cess pit in Tuam a village in Co Galway and of course no one knew it was or had happened. I never believe a word the Irish have to say about child abuse. If I can be bothered one day I will check how many priests, nuns, monks, bishops etc. etc. have been arrested and charged with child abuse and of those how many were Irish, of Irish descent or like the horrible 'mother Theresa' were trained in Ireland. By its willful refusal to deal with child physical and sexual abuse Ireland has a bigger cross to carry than the Jesus they worship Its no good blaming the English or anyone else its simple arithmetic the abuse happened when the English left and the difference between the two countries was then about 46 million people. Ireland with a population of 4 million didn't know abuse was happening in every city, town and village.
 
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