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The two faces of reporting.


Samell

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Reading the Irish Times on line I was struck by an article that screamed hypocrisy loud and clear.

Ian Watkins (Lead singer with the Lostprophets, no I don't know their stuff) was remanded in custody on allegations of plotting to rape a baby, making, downloading and distributing child pornography and accessing "extreme pornography" relating to animals.

He was remanded in custody over the Christmas period with two other women - who face similar child sex charges.

The pair, aged 20 and 24 from Doncaster and Bradford respectively, cannot be named for legal reasons.


A sick as the alleged crimes are, why is the mans name allowed to be splashed all over the media yet his two co-conspirators, both female, remain nameless and protected by legal a cover-up.

He claims he is innocent, but his name is now polluted by the allegations, yet we have no knowledge of the other two who if it comes to nothing can roam free without a stain on their character, Yet if they were plotting to rape a baby then I would assume that one of the women would be more likely to procure such an infant, possibly by natural means, for the attack.

Why do we have one law for alleged male sex criminals and a different one for female ones?
 

Didimus

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Reading the Irish Times on line I was struck by an article that screamed hypocrisy loud and clear.

Ian Watkins (Lead singer with the Lostprophets, no I don't know their stuff) was remanded in custody on allegations of plotting to rape a baby, making, downloading and distributing child pornography and accessing "extreme pornography" relating to animals.

He was remanded in custody over the Christmas period with two other women - who face similar child sex charges.

The pair, aged 20 and 24 from Doncaster and Bradford respectively, cannot be named for legal reasons.


A sick as the alleged crimes are, why is the mans name allowed to be splashed all over the media yet his two co-conspirators, both female, remain nameless and protected by legal a cover-up.

He claims he is innocent, but his name is now polluted by the allegations, yet we have no knowledge of the other two who if it comes to nothing can roam free without a stain on their character, Yet if they were plotting to rape a baby then I would assume that one of the women would be more likely to procure such an infant, possibly by natural means, for the attack.

Why do we have one law for alleged male sex criminals and a different one for female ones?
If the women are related to any of the children involved their names would identify those children.
 

Catalpast

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Reading the Irish Times on line I was struck by an article that screamed hypocrisy loud and clear.

Ian Watkins (Lead singer with the Lostprophets, no I don't know their stuff) was remanded in custody on allegations of plotting to rape a baby, making, downloading and distributing child pornography and accessing "extreme pornography" relating to animals.

He was remanded in custody over the Christmas period with two other women - who face similar child sex charges.

The pair, aged 20 and 24 from Doncaster and Bradford respectively, cannot be named for legal reasons.


A sick as the alleged crimes are, why is the mans name allowed to be splashed all over the media yet his two co-conspirators, both female, remain nameless and protected by legal a cover-up.

He claims he is innocent, but his name is now polluted by the allegations, yet we have no knowledge of the other two who if it comes to nothing can roam free without a stain on their character, Yet if they were plotting to rape a baby then I would assume that one of the women would be more likely to procure such an infant, possibly by natural means, for the attack.

Why do we have one law for alleged male sex criminals and a different one for female ones?
If the baby was their child or close relation then I think that is why they cannot be named

No - I never heard of him either
 

Grumpy Jack

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And Watkins himself has no family that would be identified by naming him?
It's nothing to do with relatives of the accused. In cases involving sex crimes, the protection of the victim is paramount. If naming an accused can identify the victim, ie a relative, partner, teacher, sports coach, etc, then the accused cannot be named - if it won't identify the victim, then the accused can be named.

In the UK, the name of the accused can be reported if it will not identify the victim - hence in this case that two accused are not named and one (Watkins) is.

In Ireland, in the case of serious sexual assault and rape, the accused cannot be named either while the case is active.

There is no double standard in the reporting in this case - the IT is simply reflecting legal position in the UK.
 

Researchwill

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And Watkins himself has no family that would be identified by naming him?
It is not if he has family, it is could the victim be identified through naming an accused. An example say a person is accused of raping a relative then the name of the accused will not be released as it may identify the victim. A victim of sexual assault has a right to remain anonymous. You often hear after a trial in ireland the media saying the victim has waived her right and then gives a statement.

It seems from this case (my first reaction on hearing the news) that the women are either the child's mother and aunt or some other relative.
 
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