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The Untold History of The United States by Oliver Stone


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The 10 part series starts on Sky Atlantic in the next few weeks.I have watched the series and it is very good a real eye opener for most people.Stone doesn't take the usual high school history lesson or traditional history books, as a Vietnam veteran himself he lays bare America's military history.Historian Peter Kuznick was also a major player in this project it details American foreign and domestic policy over the last ninety years.

In episode two the political battlefield around Roosevelt,Henry Wallace and Truman I found great.Just how closely Henry Wallace came to becoming president, and how differently history might have turned out if he had.The power the Unions had and the deal that was eventually done.This series is a must see for anyone interested in politics or history, well done Stone and Kuznick for a great series.




Oliver Stone's 'Untold History' | The Nation
 


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Armed warfare against trade unionism was the norm then.

Sure can't we trust the rich to protect our labour rights? What's the point of a union?
 

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Stone is full of it.

I watched the entire series which was briefly put up on youtube.

It is just one long stilted anti-American rant.

He glosses over the crimes of the Soviet Union and the threat they faced to the US and the rest of the democratic world during the Cold War.

He even gets the opportunity to peddle his tired JFK conspiracy theories once again.
 
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Henry Wallace had been vice President for four years and was about to be re-elected he had the votes during the convention but the Conservative and big business side of the democrats didn't want him.So they put the vote off, and then worked on Roosevelt to side line his vice President and friend Wallace which he then did.
 
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Stone is full of it.

I watched the entire series which was briefly put up on youtube.

It is just one long stilted anti-American rant.

He glosses over the crimes the Soviet Union and the threat they faced to the US and the rest of the democratic world during the Cold War.

He even gets the opportunity to peddle his tired JFK conspiracy theories once again.

Not a huge surprise you didn't like it.... Rambo or Missing in Action would suit you better!
 

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You should check out Zimm's People's History of the United States. Alternative narrative of the american tale. Great read.
 

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Not a huge surprise you didn't like it.... Rambo or Missing in Action would suit you better!
Stone believes Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy for a conspiracy involving the CIA, the Mod and anti-Castro Cubans to kill JFK so that LBJ could get the US into Vietnam or something.

He is a total moonbat.
 

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For anyone who is interested set your Sky+ set it starts friday night 9pm repeated saturday night Sky Atlantic.
 

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Stone is full of it.

I watched the entire series which was briefly put up on youtube.

It is just one long stilted anti-American rant.

He glosses over the crimes of the Soviet Union and the threat they faced to the US and the rest of the democratic world during the Cold War.

He even gets the opportunity to peddle his tired JFK conspiracy theories once again.
You don't like real history , no surprise there.
 

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I hope it deals with the US carpet bombings of North Korea and Cambodia. At least one million korean civillians died from this while Cambodia is the most bombed county of all time. The US dropped more bombs on Cambodia than they dropped on Germany and Japan combined.
 

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Thoroughly recommend the series.
As with anything of this sort the bias of the creators must be taken into consideration, but I found the whole thing very entertaining.
 

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You don't like real history , no surprise there.
JFK was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald who was a lone gunman, no conspiracy. That's real history.
 

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He defected to the Soviet Union and was brainwashed by them to kill JFK.
Erm no. He did defect to the USSR where they were suspicious of his motives and thought he may be mentally disturbed. Either way they gave him a manual job and an apartment but Oswald was unhappy because there were no bowling alleys and he went back to the US.
 

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Thoroughly recommend the series.
As with anything of this sort the bias of the creators must be taken into consideration, but I found the whole thing very entertaining.
I would recommend the series too but do your own reading and chase up the truth rather than take Stone at his word.

Millions were duped by his utterly bogus JFK conspiracy theories.

This link uncovers over 100 errors of fact and judgement in JFK:

[video]http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100menu.html[/video]
 

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He defected to the Soviet Union and was brainwashed by them to kill JFK.
No evidence. Who would have that loon as an operative, even if he was brainwashed?allegedly. Have you ever read Case Closed or Reclaiming History? Both books delve into the psyche of Oswald and confirm he was indeed the lone gunman through various evidence, eyewitness accounts and research.
 

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I hope it deals with the US carpet bombings of North Korea and Cambodia. At least one million korean civillians died from this while Cambodia is the most bombed county of all time. The US dropped more bombs on Cambodia than they dropped on Germany and Japan combined.
That is why hitch as classed him as anti American, he tells the truth no matter how bad it is. Adam Boulton was towing the old British line 'how Britain won the war' didn't like been told by Stone it was the USSR that won the war,so he then became disrespectful.
 

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