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The Unwanted Chinese Sewer Pipe Baby Who Survived Abandonment, An Inconvenient Truth?


Radix

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Headlining around the world is this amazing rescue of a newborn baby from a sewer pipe beneath a public toilet in China. China has strict family planning policies, with boys being preferred to girls and more than two children per family being 'strongly' frowned upon by officials there, to the extent that this abandonment is sadly not a rare occurence.

Chinese Police are treating this incident as attempted murder however, and the point struck me in the current context of Ireland's debate on unwanted pregnancies, had the mother of this child arranged for its 'disposal' at an abortion 'clinic' shortly before its natural birth instead of in a public toilet afterwards, she would not be the focus of criminal proceedings.

Which of course highlights an inconvenient truth about the infanticidal nature of abortion worldwide.

Well done to the rescuers, and let's hope that international pressure is brought to bear upon Chinese authorities to treat this baby boy's mother with loving care, since criminalising her actions are no solution to a culture which needs to examine the root causes of its less than welcoming approach to unwanted children.



[video=youtube;VQzJ8NslFOc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQzJ8NslFOc[/video]



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/28/china-baby-59-sewer-pipe



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331941/Chinese-baby-rescued-ALIVE-toilet-pipe-flushed-away-parents.html
 
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Headlining around the world is this amazing rescue of a newborn baby from a sewer pipe beneath a public toilet in China. China has strict family planning policies, with boys being preferred to girls and more than two children per family being 'strongly' frowned upon by officials there, to the extent that this abandonment is sadly not a rare occurence.

Chinese Police are treating this incident as attempted murder however, and the point struck me in the current context of Ireland's debate on unwanted pregnancies, had the mother of this child arranged for its 'disposal' at an abortion 'clinic' shortly before its natural birth instead of in a public toilet afterwards, she would not be the focus of criminal proceedings.

Which of course highlights an inconvenient truth about the infanticidal nature of abortion worldwide.

Well done to the rescuers, and let's hope that international pressure is brought to bear upon Chinese authorities to treat this baby boy's mother with loving care, since criminalising her actions are no solution to a culture which needs to examine the root causes of its less than welcoming approach to unwanted children.



[video=youtube;VQzJ8NslFOc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQzJ8NslFOc[/video]
Two small differences: That baby was born. The foetus was not aborted. And Ireland is not like China nor, wait for it, is China like Ireland.
 

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I find the attempted murder charge to be hypocritical in the extreme, given Chinas policy towards the unborn.
How different the attitude to humanlife in a matter of days.
 

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Headlining around the world is this amazing rescue of a newborn baby from a sewer pipe beneath a public toilet in China. China has strict family planning policies, with boys being preferred to girls and more than two children per family being 'strongly' frowned upon by officials there, to the extent that this abandonment is sadly not a rare occurence.

Chinese Police are treating this incident as attempted murder however, and the point struck me in the current context of Ireland's debate on unwanted pregnancies, had the mother of this child arranged for its 'disposal' at an abortion 'clinic' shortly before its natural birth instead of in a public toilet afterwards, she would not be the focus of criminal proceedings.

Which of course highlights an inconvenient truth about the infanticidal nature of abortion worldwide.

Well done to the rescuers, and let's hope that international pressure is brought to bear upon Chinese authorities to treat this baby boy's mother with loving care, since criminalising her actions are no solution to a culture which needs to examine the root causes of its less than welcoming approach to unwanted children.



[video=youtube;VQzJ8NslFOc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQzJ8NslFOc[/video]
For 200 euro , are you David Quinn?
 

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Maybe the mother was constipated. You know, shít happens.
 

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Life is cheap in China and it is cheapening here too. My neighbour is in his 40s. He was hospitalized after a bad fall sent him into a coma. The doctors were putting a lot of pressure on the wife to pull the plug after a matter of days. As it happens, the wife is related to a consultant who was stunned that this was even being suggested at this stage and who reckoned that he had an excellent chance of pulling through. He pulled through with no complications, and was sitting up in the bed eating ice cream when I saw him yesterday. Life is getting cheaper and cheaper.
 
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Life is cheap in China and it is cheapening here too. My neighbour is in his 40s. He was hospitalized after an bad fall sent him into a coma. The doctors were putting a lot of pressure on the wife to pull the plug after a matter of days. As it happens, the wife is related to a consultant who was stunned that this was even being suggested at this stage and who reckoned that he had an excellent chance of pulling through. He pulled through with no complications, and was sitting up in the bed eating ice cream when I saw him yesterday. Life is getting cheaper and cheaper.
Reilly and Baldy must be spitting feathers.
Howlin will be upset too.
 

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Two small differences: That baby was born. The foetus was not aborted. And Ireland is not like China nor, wait for it, is China like Ireland.


This "foetus" was abandoned in a sewer pipe of the Chinese public toilet system. One must presume that this was not an attempt at furthering his life, but of 'terminating' or 'aborting' it.

If it was wrong to attempt to 'terminate' his life this way, then how can it be somehow 'right' to terminate his life any other way 'Mr. Bumble'?
 

Mr. Bumble

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This "foetus" was abandoned in a sewer pipe of the Chinese public toilet system. One must presume that this was not an attempt at furthering his life, but of 'terminating' or 'aborting' it.

If it was wrong to attempt to 'terminate' his life this way, then how can it be somehow 'right' to terminate his life any other way 'Mr. Bumble'?
There are numerous arguments and threads on this site that will answer that question for you. Or not, depending on your perspective.

To say that there is a tenuous link between this story and the abortion debate in Ireland would be to give tenuous links a bad name.
 

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Abortion is not infanticide.

No one is seeking full term abortions.

Why do you lie.
 

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Hard to look but the question in my mind is what happens now? China is known for its inhuman law on the number of children a couple are allowed to have. The likely reason the baby was dumped in such a way is that law and now the state gets to decide the fate of a baby it would have denied the mother and punished if she had kept it.
 

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It's not in the current proposals then.
That is fair.
But be careful what you wish for. If not handled carefully you could end up with no term limits.
That's how it is here in Canada. And I can assure you there is zero possibility of any reversal on this.
Whatever gets established in Ireland will be subject to changes in one direction only.
 

eoghanacht

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Hard to look but the question in my mind is what happens now? China is known for its inhuman law on the number of children a couple are allowed to have. The likely reason the baby was dumped in such a way is that law and now the state gets to decide the fate of a baby it would have denied the mother and punished if she had kept it.

Objection your honour, speculation.

The honourable council is attempting to suggest that the chinese one child policy is the reason for this act knowing full well that the child in question was male and as such is valued more highly than a female child.
 
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