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The war you'll probably hear about next: Mali


kvran

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Other threads have reported on Islamist forces gaining control in northern Mali but the situation seems to be escalating quickly.

The title of the thread comes from the CNN GPS report on the situation

(South) Malian Government and ECOWAS backed by EU and US are preparing to retake northern Mali.

France has applied for UN approval for EU forces to train the Malian army. The current figure is 200. Trainers would be sent from EU member states to train Malian forces, this has German (significant considering their opposition to Libyan intervention) support but the EU (as usual) is not prepared to put their forces in harms way.

The US also seems to be on board. Mali was mentioned during the US Presidential election debate and reports in the Guardian claim that the US and France are co-operating to send drones to Mali.

The strategy would seem to be an assault next year led by Malian forces but backed by ECOWAS forces and with help through intel and perhaps air-strikes from EU/US forces.

Mali and al-Qaeda
Can the jihadists be stopped?


Foreign air power is crucial to Mali battle plan: sources

EU considers sending 200 troops to train Mali army

France to send drones to Mali in fight against al-Qaida-backed insurgents

The causes and events leading to this point have been discussed somewhat in other threads but what are peoples thoughts on possible intervention?
 

southwestkerry

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Just in case some folk are wondering who/where mali is.Mali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As for where things go from here, I cant see and Islamic/Jihadist group been allowed to set up shop for long without been looked at by the French first then the US
 

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As for where things go from here, I cant see and Islamic/Jihadist group been allowed to set up shop for long without been looked at by the French first then the US

....and I can't see either of them heading for the Sahara. Since when has Mali acquired that level of international empathy ? Best to let it go and use the resources to shore up our immigration function.
 

kvran

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....and I can't see either of them heading for the Sahara. Since when has Mali acquired that level of international empathy ? Best to let it go and use the resources to shore up our immigration function.
France is the former colonial master, they have business interests there but also concerns about "Azawad" (northern Mali) being a base for planning terrorist attacks in France as well as funding terrorism in other at risk areas.
 

southwestkerry

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....and I can't see either of them heading for the Sahara. Since when has Mali acquired that level of international empathy ? Best to let it go and use the resources to shore up our immigration function.
France have long memories of many a part off Africa. The US to add do not like been left out off affairs like this.
 

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Odd that the West are supporting the exact same forces in Syria (through Turkey and Saudi Arabia) and are fighting them here in Mali.

Double standards.
 

Partizan

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France have long memories of many a part off Africa. The US to add do not like been left out off affairs like this.
They do indeed. They even helped overthrow democracies and popular governments in Africa to be replaced by dictators, e.g. Burkina Faso.
 

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Odd that the West are supporting the exact same forces in Syria (through Turkey and Saudi Arabia) and are fighting them here in Mali.

Double standards.
No it isn't. Rather large fail even for you.
 

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Al-Qaeda already have a heavy influence in Mali, particularly the west of the country, which they practically control. It's no surprise that they are moving in for the kill.
 

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Al-Qaeda already have a heavy influence in Mali, particularly the west of the country, which they practically control. It's no surprise that they are moving in for the kill.
Ivory coast, Nigeria, Mali, Sudan - jeez if they were all 100% islamic there would be no problem. These mythical Islamists are a scourge alright :rolleyes:
 

TiredOfBeingTired

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Cant see a Western led large scale war:

Where is the Oil?
USA is trying to shut down wars at the moment.
No important neighbours.
In Africa

There is the Al Qaeda link but not much more
 

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The islamists in Mali are getting a lot of their arms from the NATO backed militias in Libya.
 

storybud1

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Al Queda just love lawless Sh1tholes, just don't tell them about here, the civil rights crowd would probably fund them for a few years because of their "culture" and their human right to express their culture of stealing our dole and blowing up people.

Sure anything goes in Ireland, thieving international banks with the IMF have put their own debts onto the Irish people, Enda accepts an award for putting us into penury for at least 2 generations and the Supreme Court proved that the government are telling lies.

If you are in your 20s with a decent education you should be outta here ASAP.
 

FrankSpeaks

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To the best of my knowledge Ireland has been asked to provide some troops.
 

olli rehn

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There is loads of sand there- and that is all needed for the next Irish building boom. The EU forces will secure it for us.....
 

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The islamists in Mali are getting a lot of their arms from the NATO backed militias in Libya.
As with other failed states, al-Qaida terrorists quickly take the opportunity to establish themselves. The Mali government failed to address the legitimate grievances and hunger of moderate Tuaregs in the North of the country so that rebellion was inevitable.

Mali's government was toppled by a coup in March, with two-thirds of the country currently controlled by Islamic extremists who have allowed the terrorist group al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) to operate inside the country. Drugs and trafficking money sustains the terrorists.

The African Union with its military arm ECOWAS do not have a good record in responding to such situations and another Chad will be born.
 

Politics matters

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These black Muslims have been invading us for years, it's about time the West starts returning the favour.
 

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Bloody headhackers. they really are the curse of the world
 

Clanrickard

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Er......no U.S. yanks support for Syrian opposition group, warns of extremist takeover of uprising - The Washington Post

The Obama administration on Wednesday renounced the proclaimed leaders of the Syrian political opposition and said any group seeking to oust President Bashar al-Assad must reject attempts by extremists to “hijack” a legitimate revolution.
 
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