The 'We' of Peter Sutherland.

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All citizens are equal, at least in theory, but some turn up in more Boardrooms and more TV screens than others. Peter Sutherland's Goldman Sachs outlet in Dublin has just reported profits in excess on €1 million euro per employee. Last night he was on RTÉ's After Shock.

Fintan O'Toole's writes about his use of the word 'we' in this type of interview.

“We,” he told us, “have to gird our loins to take tough decisions and see it through . . . This is where we show our mettle.”

This rallying cry might be more impressive if Sutherland had girded his own loins and shown some mettle when “we” really needed him to do so. He is one of the most distinguished Irishmen of his generation, a man of immense ability and capacity to lead. Precisely because he is idolised in the Irish business community, he had the opportunity to change the culture of Irish banking. Had he taken it, “we” would not be in the loin-girding business at the moment.

Actually, Sutherland had this opportunity twice – first when he was chairman of Allied Irish Banks from 1989 to 1993, and president of the Irish Bankers’ Federation (IBF).


Reminding us of events that emerged during his watch, O'Toole notes:

When the PAC report was published, with its damning conclusion that “eminent” bank directors did little to enforce ethical standards, Sutherland had nothing to say. Given that he was the most eminent of all, that silence was one of the reasons why the culture of Irish banking remained so lethally intact.

And Sutherland has sailed blithely onwards, indefatigably smug and unshakeably self-assured. His “we” is now more copious, stretching as it does to the whole field of global finance capitalism.


His banking endeavours were not confined to our shores, nor were they all as successful as GS - he was a director of

Royal Bank of Scotland when it engaged in the recklessness that has cost the British taxpayer at least £45 billion (€52.55 billion) so far, and sat on the remuneration committee that lavished huge bonuses on its chief executive.



Sutherland could have led by example - The Irish Times - Tue, May 11, 2010
 
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I was waiting for a thread on this all day after i read Fintan's latest populist nothing of a rant.

Sutherland didn't say anything that wasn't 100% correct and Fintan the communist basically says that this guy isn't allowed offer his opinion because he's done well for himself in life and works for Goldman.

People need to rise above this short of crap.
 
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Ah good auld Peter Sutherland. If he was running against the Bert, I'd canvass for Ahern.

Peter wouldn't challenge the banking system, are you serious?. His bank Goldman Sachs do not have a culture that any bank should be allowed emulate.
 

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Ah good auld Peter Sutherland. If he was running against the Bert, I'd canvass for Ahern.

Peter wouldn't challenge the banking system, are you serious?. His bank Goldman Sachs do not have a culture that any bank should be allowed emulate.
Have you worked for Goldman?
 

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Didn't Goldman Sachs advise the Greek government a couple of years ago on something.

Oh that's right they advised them they should enter the Euro. I wonder was the cooking of the books in Greece related to this advice?

They also played a part in the subprime bubble in the US.

I would never listen to anything Peter Sutherland has to say on any subject.
 

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Yawn, here we go again. You guys are like a bunch of 80s teenagers, queueing up to proclaim how much you hate Thatcher, while forgetting to wash your hair.
 

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Didn't Goldman Sachs advise the Greek government a couple of years ago on something.

Oh that's right they advised them they should enter the Euro. I wonder was the cooking of the books in Greece related to this advice?

They also played a part in the subprime bubble in the US.

I would never listen to anything Peter Sutherland has to say on any subject.
Seriously i don't think anything you stated above relating to Goldman is factually correct.
 

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All citizens are equal, at least in theory, but some turn up in more Boardrooms and more TV screens than others. Peter Sutherland's Goldman Sachs outlet in Dublin has just reported profits in excess on €1 million euro per employee. Last night he was on RTÉ's After Shock.

Fintan O'Toole's writes about his use of the word 'we' in this type of interview.

“We,” he told us, “have to gird our loins to take tough decisions and see it through . . . This is where we show our mettle.”

This rallying cry might be more impressive if Sutherland had girded his own loins and shown some mettle when “we” really needed him to do so. He is one of the most distinguished Irishmen of his generation, a man of immense ability and capacity to lead. Precisely because he is idolised in the Irish business community, he had the opportunity to change the culture of Irish banking. Had he taken it, “we” would not be in the loin-girding business at the moment.

Actually, Sutherland had this opportunity twice – first when he was chairman of Allied Irish Banks from 1989 to 1993, and president of the Irish Bankers’ Federation (IBF).
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Sutherland could have led by example - The Irish Times - Tue, May 11, 2010


Yet the same IT is totally complicit in the media black out as to why Sutherland was in Dublin in the first place.
Bilderberg Found | EUTimes.net

The europhile 'Irish Times' is such blatant controlled opposition to the New World Order.
 

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Yawn, here we go again. You guys are like a bunch of 80s teenagers, queueing up to proclaim how much you hate Thatcher, while forgetting to wash your hair.
Your blind spot is showing.
 
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Didn't Goldman Sachs advise the Greek government a couple of years ago on something.

Oh that's right they advised them they should enter the Euro. I wonder was the cooking of the books in Greece related to this advice?

They also played a part in the subprime bubble in the US.

I would never listen to anything Peter Sutherland has to say on any subject.
Goldman Sachs have a very tainted reputation, yet people like HBAP will defend to the hilt the likes of Peter. The tribal mentality is well.
 

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Fintan O toole works for a newspaper which sold property porn, greed and avarice. Why should I listen to his pontifications?
 
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Fintan O toole works for a newspaper which sold property porn, greed and avarice. Why should I listen to his pontifications?
Do the media have editorial responsibility over advertising of property - as in, we are advertising this house for 400k but you shouldn't buy it - it's overpriced?:rolleyes:
 

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From a relation of mine who work for them,I believe they are excellent employers.He has done very well as their employee and retired a young man.Now I don't like them or the shenanigans that they get up too.
Have you worked for Goldman?
 

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Fintan O toole works for a newspaper which sold property porn, greed and avarice. Why should I listen to his pontifications?
Because regardless of who he is, or where his writings appear, he makes some good points.

Sutherland won't pen a reply. O'Toole barely summarised the full extent of Suds' smooth maneuverings over the DIRT scandal, and the big man won't want that episode revisted, especially with Fintan (amongst others) making the proper link between the banks' free pass on that misbehaviour and how they felt emboldened to act as they did more recently.

It really is an indictment of our media class that Sutherland is normally revered rather than looked upon as damaged goods.
 

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Because regardless of who he is, or where his writings appear, he makes some good points.

Sutherland won't pen a reply. O'Toole barely summarised the full extent of Suds' smooth maneuverings over the DIRT scandal, and the big man won't want that episode revisted, especially with Fintan (amongst others) making the proper link between the banks' free pass on that misbehaviour and how they felt emboldened to act as they did more recently.

It really is an indictment of our media class that Sutherland is normally revered rather than looked upon as damaged goods.
Ah yes, Sutherland is responsible for Goldman's faults but Fintan can play the 'holier than thou' scribe. Well, I think the property pages of the Irish Times were an alter of greed, coercion, avarice and jealousy during the boom years and played some part in encouraging young and not so young housebuyers to enter into a lifetime of debt.
 


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